[ SECRET POST #2247 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #2247 ⌋

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Comments

[(Anonymous)]

Yes, that's a pattern. A pattern of badly-written female characters. I don't see why you'd rather harp on the OP for hating shit than focusing on the sewer pipes that spew it out.

[(Anonymous)]

If a show depicts a man and a woman behaving rather similarly, and the fans look down on the woman for her behavior and not on the man for his, regardless of the writing, misogyny is likely to be the culprit.

Also, just because a show treats a female character badly for her (actually justifiable) behavior doesn't mean the fans have to. Not examining the problems surrounding a female character's portrayal and simply following along with the show's treatment isn't any better. There's a huge difference between, "I hate the way she's handled," and, "I hate her."

I'm not harping on the OP, mind - I don't think internalized misogyny is their problem. I'm just saying, sometimes a fandom's pattern of disliking female characters has nothing to do with bad writing.

[(Anonymous)]

+1

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+1!

[astridv]

ITA

[fauxkaren]

I tried to make a really awful metaphor about shit and chocolate and how sometimes people dismiss something as shit when it's actually chocolate, but well. Yes. It was terrible.

I think people are used to dismissing female characters and don't necessarily spend much time thinking about them so maybe there are more well written female characters than you might think if you just give them a chance.

[astridv]

Pretty much. A lot of fans wouldn't spot a well written female character if she was jumping up and down in front of them and waving her arms.

(Uh. Not the best metaphor either but I'm still on my first cup of tea...)

[(Anonymous)]

AYRT

That's not what I meant at all! I fully believe OP when they say they've realized it was bad writing that made them dislike so many female characters!

When I said that a pattern of disliking female characters *might* indicate misogyny, that was meant in response to the people upthread dismissing the possibility of internalized misogyny out of hand as "sjw brainwashing" or something. I actually think it's admirable that OP was willing to examine the idea, and they definitely shouldn't be mocked for it.