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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2013-03-01 07:05 pm

[ SECRET POST #2250 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2250 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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[Stan Lee]


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[Pusher II]


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[nigahiga]


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[code lyoko evolution]


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10. [SPOILERS for Homestuck]



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11. [SPOILERS for Kuroko no Basket]



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12. [WARNING for rape]



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13. [WARNING for abuse]



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14. [WARNING for rape]

[SNSD/Girls' Generation]


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15. [WARNING for dub-con]



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16. [WARNING for sexual assault]

[One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest]


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(Anonymous) 2013-03-02 12:32 am (UTC)(link)
That's supposed to be the point and people are still expected to sympathize with this guy? Ew.

(Anonymous) 2013-03-02 12:52 am (UTC)(link)
Mainly because of misogyny, its evil for a women to be in control of a bunch of guys but considered jest right fur a guy to smack her around a little fur havin' temerity to be the boss. You can see that attitude on any random youtube comments section. Asshole woman beater gets consistent promotion.
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[personal profile] insanenoodlyguy 2013-03-02 03:23 am (UTC)(link)
He was trying to kill her. Not rape her. And the world they lived in would be better for her death.

(Anonymous) 2013-03-02 03:59 am (UTC)(link)
So you're saying the sexual overtones are not supposed to be the point? Ugh, I'm confused.
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[personal profile] insanenoodlyguy 2013-03-02 04:15 am (UTC)(link)
Oh overtones were deliberately in there, yes. But he was trying to kill her. Not rape her then kill her. Not rape her while killing her. He was trying to kill her and her clothes got ripped in the attempt.

Read the line in the picture above again. Look at the picture. His hands are on her neck and he's squeezing as hard as he can. She can't breathe and his aim is that she never will again. That's not lust. It wasn't about power or dominance anymore. It was cold hate.
Edited 2013-03-02 04:24 (UTC)
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[personal profile] greenvelvetcake 2013-03-02 06:03 am (UTC)(link)
Did you... read the book? I feel a lot of anons in this thread got the cliffnotes version, or just info from other comments in the thread, or just complete goddamn idiots, because so many are missing the point like there's no tomorrow.

(Anonymous) 2013-03-02 07:45 am (UTC)(link)
I read the book, and the "its evil for a women to be in control" is pretty spot on.

http://www.cliffsnotes.com/study_guide/literature/one-flew-over-the-cuckoos-nest/critical-essays/role-of-women.html
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[personal profile] insanenoodlyguy 2013-03-02 04:50 pm (UTC)(link)
Right in the damn quotes on those cliff notes (which are sure as hell not proof you read the book) it specifically has the character describing men and women alike as "ball cutters" a masculine focused term to be sure, but not one exclusively assigned to femininity.

I don't think you did read the book. Or you read it looking for something you found.

Cliff notes aren't gospel. Agree or disagree, that's proof of jack shit.

(Anonymous) 2013-03-02 05:26 pm (UTC)(link)
I don't think you did read the book. Or you read it looking for something you found.

Cliff notes aren't gospel. Agree or disagree, that's proof of jack shit.


this

using cliff notes to justify some bullshit agenda is pretty lame. if the ayrt wants to show is specifically in the text and discuss it from a literary perspective, I'd enjoy the break down of it.

but throwing quotes from cliff notes (used by people who are too fucking lazy to read the book) just shows they are yanking what they want to support their half-assed theory and still try to look smart.

here's a clue. for those of us who have read the book? we can tell you're going by the cliff notes. just sayin'...
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[personal profile] insanenoodlyguy 2013-03-02 05:44 pm (UTC)(link)
Obviously there's been critiques/reviews of books I agreed with, but I don't interpret them as fact. The only time I accept that sort of thing is when the author actually says "this is what I wanted to do with this." then, irregardless of if he did or didn't pull off that goal, I feel we have a legit context with which to interpret the work.

And I'm invoking my own little godwin's law esque thing right now: anybody who responds to this with some death of the author bullshit will not get a response because you aren't worth talking to. Barthes was saying we don't always know what the Author's intention was, but sometimes we do. And while you might pull something different from the work, then saying "this is what the author intended" is not what that was about at all.

Edit: on a meta level, saying anything about what death of the author intended is, I suppose, a bit against the documents spirit.
Edited 2013-03-02 17:46 (UTC)

(Anonymous) 2013-03-02 09:00 pm (UTC)(link)
And what exactly is written in that cliffnotes page that is incorrect about the novel?

it specifically has the character describing men and women alike as "ball cutters" a masculine focused term to be sure, but not one exclusively assigned to femininity.

Yes, but that passing reference doesn't change the fact that all the "ball-cutters" who actually appear in the book are women.
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[personal profile] insanenoodlyguy 2013-03-02 09:45 pm (UTC)(link)
the fact that it is full of opinions you treat as fact.

(Anonymous) 2013-03-02 10:00 pm (UTC)(link)
The female characters in One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest can be divided into two extreme categories: "ball-cutters" and whores. The former is represented by Nurse Ratched, Harding's wife, Billy Bibbit's mother, and Chief Bromden's mother.

Each of these women are intent on dominating men by emasculating them, whereas the whores Candy and Sandy are dedicated to pleasuring men and doing what they're told.


Is this false?