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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2013-03-02 03:53 pm

[ SECRET POST #2251 ]


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(Anonymous) 2013-03-02 10:38 pm (UTC)(link)
It also depends on a studio's ability to have a gay character without reeking of indoctrination. Mixing sexuality into children's entertainment does not go over well in America no matter how liberal the parents.
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[personal profile] world_eater 2013-03-02 11:58 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm wonder, how exactly would one manage to include a gay character into an animated movie and make it reek of indoctrination? Or do you mean that American parents see indoctrination everywhere and it would be hard to include a character in a way that wouldn't make them piss their pants?

(Anonymous) 2013-03-03 12:27 am (UTC)(link)
DA: In my experience, the latter. I know one man who heard about that episode of Spongebob where Spongebob and Patrick raise a baby clam and start dressing and acting like a married couple with a newborn, Spongebob the nagging housewife in curlers and Patrick the absent office-working dad.

He decided the characters and the whole show were gay and forbid his son from ever watching another episode.
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[personal profile] world_eater 2013-03-03 12:50 am (UTC)(link)
Oh dear. That's just sad :(
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[personal profile] lunabee34 2013-03-03 02:23 am (UTC)(link)
That is my absolute favorite episode of Spongebob ever. I thought I might actually die laughing the first time I watched it. :)

(Anonymous) 2013-03-03 04:34 am (UTC)(link)
Actually, het sexuality gets mixed in all the time. It's just that people who grew up with that consider it normal, and see any other portrayal as overtly more sexual, while (frex) the dogs eating spaghetti in Lady and the Tramp eating spaghetti just pings as "heartwarming." It's easy to be aware that *your* orienation is all about feelings, and only a small subset of those are sexual. Minorities are still pushing for that kind of acknowledgement with limited success, and until they get it, a gay character is going to be interpreted by the mainstream as provocative and in-your-face sexual, even if they aren't.

(Anonymous) 2013-03-04 09:49 am (UTC)(link)
Very good point. In a culture where het is the default, two guys exchanging even a chaste peck makes onlookers aware that their sexual orientation is important enough to them that they're willing to tolerate the ignorance and inconvenience which our current society forces them to endure.

Het relationships, on the other hand, we can kind of just skip over if we don't want to think about their sexuality; similar to how you generally don't think of your parents as anything other than asexual.

In other words, someone wearing a 'Gay and proud!' shirt is on the same level as a straight man wearing a shirt that said 'I only sleep with redheads'. Nothing wrong with that, but who wants to know?

The ideal solution would be for the next generation to get a chance to see homosexuality as normalized, just another option and not really a big deal, so they *don't* have to grow up with this knee-jerk response, but sadly it seems like that'll be a long time in coming.