[ SECRET POST #2252 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #2252 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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[Billie Piper - Doctor Who/Secret Diary of a Call Girl]


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[Steam Powered Giraffe]


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[Teen Wolf]


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[Kuroko no Basket]


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[Princess Tutu]


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[Kuroshitsuji]


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[Queer as Folk]


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[The Reward]


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[Spartacus: War of the Damned]


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[The Following]


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[Les dossiers du Professeur Bell]


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[Misfits]


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[Saint's Row The Third]


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[Penn and Teller]


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[Harry Potter]


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Notes:

Secrets Left to Post: 04 pages, 093 secrets from Secret Submission Post #322.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 0 - broken links ], [ 1 - not!secrets ], [ 0 - not!fandom ], [ 1 - too big ], [ 0 - repeat ], [ 1 - posted twice ].
Current Secret Submissions Post: here.
Suggestions, comments, and concerns should go here.

Comments

[(Anonymous)]

Really? No one's freaking out about the word "psychopath" in this secret and how it's ableist? I have to say I'm pleasantly surprised.

It's turning into the same thing in Teen Wolf. You can't possibly dislike Scott - or think he's a little dense, despite canon evidence - without being racist. Yeah he's erased a lot in fandom (a LOT), but Scott is not perfect, and someone who dislikes him can have reasons besides his race.

[(Anonymous)]

Yeeeeah, I think when folks start saying that psychopaths and sociopaths are "disabled people," I'm going to kill myself.

[(Anonymous)]

AYRT - the idea seems to be that a lot of mentally-ill people have been called "psycho" or "crazy" in the past, and therefore it's triggering for someone who would actually be diagnosed as psychotic to be called such.

I just...I don't have a lot to go on with this. I realize this parallels a lot of language used in the past against black people or gay people or what-have-you, but the word "crazy" is so ingrained in modern slang and speech that I don't think there would be any ability to avoid it. This isn't like using "n*gga" or "f*g" in speech, or even like "gay" (meaning "stupid") or "retarded" - those are things that virtually everyone recognizes can be hurtful. But "crazy"? I don't think I'd ever ask my friends to not use it around me - hell, I'd probably use it myself even if I was called it after mental illness. And the range of people that would be actively offended by it off the anonymous forum of the Internet? I think that's extremely small.

*shrug*

[(Anonymous)]

Well... it is, but since it's not an actual diagnosis and the language is going to have some pithy descriptor for violent terrifying irrational unstable behavior, I'm not going to make a fuss about it.

[(Anonymous)]

...holy crap, you people have actually started saying it.

Ted Bundy? Oh, he just had a disability! Stop hatin'!

[(Anonymous)]

An in-depth discussion of sociopathy brings up fascinating questions about free will and the nature of evil. Can someone be a bad person if they had no choice in how they turned out? Can someone be a good person if how they turned out is so abominable?

[(Anonymous)]

AYRT from above.

As I stated above, I guess I understand the sentiment - nobody likes being called "crazy" if they have actually experienced mental illness. But I don't see how it could be something that could be eradicated out of normal speech. (Again, I realize this is the same logic used in the past against derogatory racial or sexual slurs, but still.) Like, calling someone out on their use of the word "gay" meaning stupid or "retarded", I get. That feels like something that COULD be taken out of modern slang - most kids are getting the memo that it's hurtful, even if they don't give two shits. Removing the word "crazy" or "psycho" from modern vocabulary, when it honestly will trigger such a small number of people in the IRL world, feels like fighting a losing battle.

Just my opinion - I don't have any "standing" in the disabled or mentally-ill communities, but I still got one. Just like I have an opinion on the trans* equality, racial equality, and income equality battles going on.

[(Anonymous)]

AYRT

I don't have an issue with "crazy", though I guess I can understand why some people would. It's generic enough and sufficiently disconnected from mental illness as such that it seems like a lot less trouble to let it go on its way as a general adjective and not use it in reference to specific mental illnesses. I think we're well on the way to that already.

"Psychopath" feels to me like it's on the same level as "retarded". It used to be a technical term, and it was co-opted as an insult because the qualities it describes are considered negative. Use as an insult outstripped the technical use, and the technical terms were abandoned for less loaded words. (Which immediately started to become loaded, but so it goes.)