[ SECRET POST #2253 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #2253 ⌋

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Notes:

Secrets Left to Post: 04 pages, 077 secrets from Secret Submission Post #322.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 0 - broken links ], [ 0 - not!secrets ], [ 0 - not!fandom ], [ 1 - too big ], [ 0 - repeat ].
Current Secret Submissions Post: here.
Suggestions, comments, and concerns should go here.

Comments

Re: Body Mod/Non-Fandom secret from yesterday

[(Anonymous)]

That isn't a lip cut, it's a repaired harelip. And yes, it would be offensive as hell to get that done. You'd probably have to go to a plastic surgeon to get the work you want done and most of them would refuse you because you want mutilation, not modification.

Re: Body Mod/Non-Fandom secret from yesterday

[chardmonster]

Why would that be more offensive than anything else?

I mean I think it's silly and unwise but there's nothing offensive about that.

Re: Body Mod/Non-Fandom secret from yesterday

[(Anonymous)]

Appropriating the appearance of a disability for fashion? How is that NOT offensive?

Re: Body Mod/Non-Fandom secret from yesterday

[(Anonymous)]

Hold on, let's back that up. How is that a disability? And the "repaired hairlip" picture I'm pretty sure is Joaquin Phoenix and he was born that way.

Re: Body Mod/Non-Fandom secret from yesterday

[(Anonymous)]

Harelips are not just a cosmetic issue; they are a birth defect that can severely limit someone's ability to breathe, eat, speak, and hear.

Re: Body Mod/Non-Fandom secret from yesterday

[chardmonster]

There are other ways to cut your lip. I doubt that's what OP was thinking.

And regarding that: how is a repaired harelip a disability? Is that an identity you can really appropriate at all?

Re: Body Mod/Non-Fandom secret from yesterday

[(Anonymous)]

Repairing the lip doesn't always cure the other issues involved, especially if the palate was also cleft.

Re: Body Mod/Non-Fandom secret from yesterday

[chardmonster]

I realize this.

However you're basing an accusation of appropriation on... a line on someone's lip.

Re: Body Mod/Non-Fandom secret from yesterday

[(Anonymous)]

I'm done trying to explain this to anyone. I do know that if I saw someone like that and tried to talk to them about their experience as a harelip and I found out they'd had their lip cut like that because they liked the way it looks, I'd add to their "modification" with a Chelsea Grin.

Re: Body Mod/Non-Fandom secret from yesterday

[chardmonster]

Well you certainly seem reasonable.

Re: Body Mod/Non-Fandom secret from yesterday

[(Anonymous)]

I don't think wanting to harm someone because of their chosen physical appearance is adding anything to help support your argument. A "Glasgow grin" or "Chelsea grin" is generally used as a form of torture, that's like saying you want to set someone on fire because you hate it that they're wearing the color purple.

Re: Body Mod/Non-Fandom secret from yesterday

[(Anonymous)]

Well, I think it's a bit offensive that you'd refer to a person with harelip as "a harelip," as if that is her sole defining feature.

Re: Body Mod/Non-Fandom secret from yesterday

[(Anonymous)]

DA - In some parts of the world, people with a cleft palate or cleft lip call themselves harelips. It's still pretty common in the US with elderly people, too. And no fun to encounter when you're the person they're calling that.

Re: Body Mod/Non-Fandom secret from yesterday

[(Anonymous)]

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I was born with a cleft palate (I'm assuming you are based on your reaction) and I have some residual problems as an adult. I wouldn't recommend someone get their lip cut to mimic a cleft lip, but it certainly wouldn't incite me to violence. I'd just kind of side-eye them and distance myself from them as much as possible.

I kinda understand why you might think it's appropriation, but it really isn't. I don't think it's any more likely to be offensive than other kinds of body modification.

Re: Body Mod/Non-Fandom secret from yesterday

[(Anonymous)]

cool story, bro.

Re: Body Mod/Non-Fandom secret from yesterday

[(Anonymous)]

old meme, bro.

Re: Body Mod/Non-Fandom secret from yesterday

[insanenoodlyguy]

And not a good usage of it.