[ SECRET POST #2254 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #2254 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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Secrets Left to Post: 03 pages, 058 secrets from Secret Submission Post #322.
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Comments

[(Anonymous)]

http://www.feministfrequency.com/2011/03/true-grit-mattie-ross-and-feminism/

[sugar_spun]

That doesn't seem to saying what you think. This seems to be the blogger's point:

I think feminist characters should, like feminists in real life, push beyond the societal norms, challenge gender roles and the institutions that actively work to maintain them.

She seems to be basically disagreeing with the notion that a feminist character is any female character who is not simply a damsel in distress or a love interest.

on the other hand I don’t want them just to recasting tough male roles for a woman to play which we’ve been seeing a lot of lately.

In True Grit, Mattie is certainly subverts expected gender roles by being witty and smart and competent and independent yet she’s not challenging the set of patriarchal archetypal male values ever present in most mass media narratives – she’s actually adopting them.

This really doesn't seem to be as radical or as demeaning as strong female characters are just too masculine.

[(Anonymous)]

Just a heads up: This blogger is a fucking dooley.

If there's one point that might help inform you about her true opinions it's that she believes to be a feminist you must also be a pacifist. Masculine traits such as violence must be rejected etc, etc.

There's a whole list of stuff she's said on the YMMV page (TVTropes.org) for feminist frequency if you're interested..

She has a whole list of whacked out beliefs about men and women, so you might be giving her the benefit of the doubt a bit too soon.

[sugar_spun]

Hm...I'm not sure what to think, then. I mean, I think the argument on it's own has some really fair and valid points that I don't think should simply be dismissed because some of her ideas are poor.

But I guess I would have to see those things for myself, because, well, just based on this one issue with Mattie it seems easy for people to put words into her mouth. On that YMMV page, I would say they characterized her idea very differently than how I understood it.

[(Anonymous)]

Hey, you actually understand what Sarkeesian was saying. I like that. Unfortunately, no amount of clear explaining will make the idiots in the audience understand likewise.

You did good, though. Grats.