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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2013-03-05 06:44 pm

[ SECRET POST #2254 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2254 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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Secrets Left to Post: 03 pages, 058 secrets from Secret Submission Post #322.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 1 - broken links ], [ 1 - not!secrets ], [ 0 - not!fandom ], [ 1 - too big ], [ 0 - repeat ].
Current Secret Submissions Post: here.
Suggestions, comments, and concerns should go here.

(Anonymous) 2013-03-06 02:02 am (UTC)(link)
I agree, that's not possible. But i think if it's a well-known phobia, like trypophobia, people respect it and trigger for it. But for less well known ones, it's like "lol just suck it up, we can't TW for EVERYTHING"
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[personal profile] kallanda_lee 2013-03-06 02:07 am (UTC)(link)
My view on it is just that both on the internet and in real life there will always be things that trigger people. I don't really have "triggers" in that sense, but there are things that can quite affect me (like suicide, or self harm) because some of my own experiences. It really depends on how it's presented to me, but I don't really think it's everyone else responsibility to keep that stuff away from me.

That being said, it sucks if your tokophobia isn't taken seriously.
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[personal profile] kittenmommy 2013-03-06 05:38 am (UTC)(link)

I don't really think it's everyone else responsibility to keep that stuff away from me.

This. I don't understand why more people don't get this.

There are things that upset me, too, but that's life.

I sometimes wonder how some people on the 'net manage to function in the real world.
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[personal profile] kallanda_lee 2013-03-06 12:25 pm (UTC)(link)
Badly? I have a friend who has a phobia of TV's...I'm not kidding. She won't go into a place if a TV might be on. Two years ago I went bowling with my friends on my birthday and she wouldn't go in because the bowling hall had screens. I mean, it really badly impacts her life because it's EVERYWHERE. I try take it into account when planning things with her, but it's impossible to foresee entirely, because screens are everywhere.
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[personal profile] kittenmommy 2013-03-06 07:45 pm (UTC)(link)

She should probably seek counseling, because it's obviously interfering with her life.
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[personal profile] kallanda_lee 2013-03-07 01:44 am (UTC)(link)
She probably should, but she's one of those people who thinks the world needs fixing, not her.

To be fair I know where it comes from - she has autism and has gotten a lot of bullshit/lack of understanding for that...it's just that "fixing" some things would make her life so much easier. And I do not think the phobia is even related to the autism.
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[personal profile] kittenmommy 2013-03-07 01:46 am (UTC)(link)

o be fair I know where it comes from - she has autism and has gotten a lot of bullshit/lack of understanding for that...it's just that "fixing" some things would make her life so much easier. And I do not think the phobia is even related to the autism.

Well, television could be a source of sensory overload for her, and she may have developed a phobia of them as a result. It makes sense.

But no one should go "fix themselves" unless they really want to... if they want to live their life in fear of something relatively innocuous, I guess that's their choice. *shrugs*
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[personal profile] kallanda_lee 2013-03-07 01:50 am (UTC)(link)
It's not the sensory overload, actually. (I'm the one who has problems with that one).If you're really interested: it's that there are certain things she can't bear seeing. Commercials for one - she freaks out at the thought of someone trying to influence her to buy something. Sexual scenes is another - she doesn't quite get how you can "play" something so intimate as an actor and it freaks her out.

I man, objectively I find her particular phobia fascinating because I've never hear of anything like it before...but it really, really must suck living with it.

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(Anonymous) 2013-03-06 02:20 am (UTC)(link)
It does suck but what you fear is to most people a pretty innocuous thing. Seven Billion+ of us on this earth and all. I'm sorry for what you go through but warning for things that are a perfectly normal part of the sphere of human existence really is a bit far to go.

(Anonymous) 2013-03-06 02:23 am (UTC)(link)
Thank you for being understanding. I have to ask, though, by that logic, explicit images of childbirth are A-OK to not warn for on this site? Even if they don't include genitalia [say, a newborn covered in all the pleasantries of birth]? It's perfectly normal and natural.

(Anonymous) 2013-03-06 02:28 am (UTC)(link)
That's not something most people will ever see. But a pregnant woman is something that nearly everyone on the planet will see multiple times in their life. Tokophobia affects such a small portion of the population and pregnancy is so common that it just isn't a reasonable thing to warn for.

(Anonymous) 2013-03-06 02:43 am (UTC)(link)
This. You can't very well expect people to tag things 'Warning: perfectly ordinary human life.'

(Anonymous) 2013-03-06 02:46 am (UTC)(link)
People also get killed every single day, that's perfectly ordinary human life. And some people are freaked out by images of death, but some aren't. I'm just as squicked out by images of pregnancy as other people would be at a dead body.
But my opinion doesn't matter, amirite? Because I should just get over it. People with phobias should just get over it.

(Anonymous) 2013-03-06 02:53 am (UTC)(link)
Again, not something most people will ever see. But keep trying. Look, I'm sorry that you have a phobia. I am NOT trivializing it. But it's up to YOU to find ways to cope with it and when you're talking about something that affects a tiny portion of the population, it's unreasonable to expect others to conform to your preferred way of dealing with it.

(Anonymous) 2013-03-06 02:55 am (UTC)(link)
Just ask case for the trigger warning already. Don't be surprised if he doesn't add one.

(Anonymous) 2013-03-06 02:56 am (UTC)(link)
I think he probably would add it. People have requested uncommon TWs before and he's added them.

(Anonymous) 2013-03-06 02:58 am (UTC)(link)
Actually, no, in psychiatric terms people being killed is not considered part of the normal sphere of human life. It's a traumatic event. Dead bodies? The varied responses in the population occur with high enough frequency that they can reasonably all be catered for. But pregnancy simply isn't one of those things to society at large.

And no, you don't have to 'just get over it', but you might want to consider getting help, because your ability to function is being affected by something that by all rights should not be having this effect. Even if you refuse help, as is your right, nobody owes you warnings for normalcy.

(Anonymous) 2013-03-06 05:20 am (UTC)(link)
You should get help. If you're at the point where you're comparing childbirth with people violently dying, you're bending over backwards to make excuses for yourself.
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[personal profile] kallanda_lee 2013-03-06 12:41 pm (UTC)(link)
Well, childbirth is pretty messy and gory, though. It all depends on what freaks you out. I've seen dead bodies before and while I feel sadness over it, and I find it disturbing a loved one can just end up an empty shell - I do not think there's anything inherently disgusting about dead people.

Seeing an actual violent death - I can see how that would be traumatic. But just the body in aftermath? Not necessarily.

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(Anonymous) 2013-03-06 08:34 am (UTC)(link)
It's generally assumed that if you're on fandomsecrets, that you consume a fair amount of popular media, so it makes sense that we take the majority of our trigger warnings from them. Things like rape, suicide, and self-harm are likely to get a show put at 10pm (or on a cable channel) or get a heavy rating slapped on a movie, and it's reasonable to assume that a person who was triggered by these things could avoid them by consuming less risky media.

Pregnancy, on the other hand, is everywhere, in media and in real life, and if it's something you can't handle, f!s can't be the biggest of your worries.

There's a phobia for everything, and there are real people suffering from all of them. The only way to make f!s 'safe' for everyone would be for each secret to be a text description of the picture and a link.

(Apiphobic anon from above, by the way. Not my place to say you MUST get over it, but it's worth considering that if you don't have to plan your life around avoiding a very common, everyday thing, it takes a lot of stress off your back.)
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[personal profile] astridv 2013-03-06 08:41 am (UTC)(link)
The only way to make f!s 'safe' for everyone would be for each secret to be a text description of the picture and a link.

Even that wouldn't be enough in some cases. A childhood friend of mine had a frog phobia and even hearing the word "frog" would make her queasy to the point of fainting.
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[personal profile] otakugal15 2013-03-06 11:32 am (UTC)(link)
I have a very common phobia: Spiders. but do I expect every image of a spider ever to have a warning posted? No.

Get over it. Pregnancy is a common thing in human life. It will not be warned for. Though I am sorry it scares you.

(Anonymous) 2013-03-06 09:50 pm (UTC)(link)
But my opinion doesn't matter, amirite? Because I should just get over it. People with phobias should just get over it.
Nobody said that, you fucking snowflake.
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[personal profile] hwc 2013-03-06 02:40 am (UTC)(link)
In that case I think it's more the blood people object to/would warn for, rather than the birth itself. Post a picture with a woman obviously in labour but keep her genitalia and the blood-covered newborn out of view and most people won't object.


A birth is a joyous occasion for most people, or at least society as a whole views it as such, which is why most people don't realise that there might be something upsetting about giving birth/pregnancy.

(Anonymous) 2013-03-06 02:40 am (UTC)(link)
It's not my site to be dictating where some big warning line for everyone is to be drawn. We all put our lines in different places. I probably wouldn't think twice about a gooey newborn because I work in hospitals and it's nothing new to me. But just like you did here, in most of my circles you're free to request a warning if you feel the need.