[ SECRET POST #2256 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #2256 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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[The Most Popular Girls In School]


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[Rust and Bone]


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[My Mad Fat Diary]


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[Sailor Moon]


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[Harvest Moon: A New Beginning]


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[American Horror Story Asylum]


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[Homestuck]


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[DC Comics]


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Notes:

Secrets Left to Post: 01 pages, 021 secrets from Secret Submission Post #322.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 0 - broken links ], [ 1 - not!secrets ], [ 0 - not!fandom ], [ 0 - too big ], [ 0 - repeat ].
Current Secret Submissions Post: here.
Suggestions, comments, and concerns should go here.

Comments

[wauwy]

Honestly... all of the DC heroes beyond Batman really have to be approached from a more modern-myth characterization/story standpoint. They can't be treated as "real people" the way Marvel heroes can.

When they're written that way (and it takes a skillful writer), they're enjoyable. But it's rare.

[poisonenvy]

Actually, Static is one of my favourite DC heroes of all time (at least in the 1990 comics. I only read a few of then new 52 comics, and they weren't as awesome). He is entirely human and awesome and amazing.

[truxillogical]

I'd beg to differ.

The better known ones, maybe.

But, say, Oracle? Ted Kord? Jaime Reyes? Batwoman.

Or heck--Wally West.

Because seriously, the reality of Wally's life got delved into pretty frequently. Remember in his early days as the Flash, when he was 19-year-old kid with no job, no source of income, who had to charge money for his services sometimes, because with Great Speed comes Great Metabolism, and it would screw him over until he got it under control? Or how, yeah, he can read a library in a minute, but he can't retain the knowledge for very long.

They're not really any more or less "real people" than Marvel heroes are.

At the end of the day, repeat to yourself, it's just a show, you should really just relax.

[wauwy]

I did mean their flagship heroes.

[truxillogical]

Well, who fits that bill at Marvel, then? Peter Parker is the only Marvel flagship hero who comes across as a "real person." Other than that, their flagship characters are Captain America, Hulk, Wolverine, and I suppose after the movies, Iron Man (who might fit the bill for alcoholism and having his powers also come down to Gadgets and Money).

Honestly, though, since you said Batman is the DC flagship who can be treated as a real person in terms of characterization, I'm curious as to what your criteria is for that. Because Batman's almost as far gone as Superman in terms of "character growth hindered by public perception and mythos." Just wondering.

[(Anonymous)]

I think it's more of a company approach. I remember Linkara once said that, although exceptions exist, DC usually treats their heroes like people to look up to, while Marvel treats their heroes like people to identify with. Neither approach is good or bad. Of course there are people to look up to in the Marvel Universe (Captain America, being the most obvious example) and of course there are people to identify with in the DCU (Wally West, as you yourself mentioned, is a good example), but you can't ignore the fact that most of DC's (main) heroes have this "bigger than life" vibe to them, while most Marvel heroes are more down to Earth.

[(Anonymous)]

The flagship books for Marvel are Spiderman, the FF, the Avengers, and the X-Men. You already talked about Spidey. The Avengers don't really fit with the down-to-earth thing as much, although if you compare Captain America and Superman, I would say Cap is more down to earth. But the FF is very much "real people" - the whole point of them is that they're a family that happens to have superpowers, and trying to deal with those superpowers and the effect they have on their personal lives. The X-Men, as a group, are even more about that - about inter-personal interactions, and especially about being excluded and being an outsider and being lonely and all of that. That's the power that drives pretty much all X-Men stories. Wolverine is kind of an exception to that (and he's also, in his own way, down to earth).

Wolverine, Cap, Hulk, Iron Man might be the most marketable or the most recognizable characters. But the centerpiece of Marvel as a comics line and as a universe is Spiderman and the team books. Those are the tent-poles. And if you look at them, mostly, the emphasis of each is on their real lives.