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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2013-03-08 07:13 pm

[ SECRET POST #2257 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2257 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.



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13. [SPOILERS for A Song of Ice and Fire]



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17. [WARNING for suicide, self harm]

[My Mad Fat Diary]


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(Anonymous) 2013-03-09 12:47 am (UTC)(link)
I couldn't stand Brave. I hate stories where characters are born and raised into a life of privilege and plenty, and then go on to complain when they find out it comes with responsibilities too. No, she didn't choose it, but none of us choose our birth, do we? Life isn't required to be fair.

(Anonymous) 2013-03-09 12:50 am (UTC)(link)
Sounds like you have some issues to resolve.

(Anonymous) 2013-03-09 01:05 am (UTC)(link)
...no, I don't think so. That doesn't describe my life at all. Nice to know that disagreeing with the conventional 'anyone can do anything' wisdom is apparently indicative of mental trauma, however.
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[personal profile] insanenoodlyguy 2013-03-09 03:41 pm (UTC)(link)
Your issues are your classism and the privilege you obvious have to not be so hungry you can think about classism.

Check them you over-resourced twit.

(Anonymous) 2013-03-09 12:52 am (UTC)(link)
Ugh, THIS. I wanted to SLAP Merida for complaining about her privilege. She all but outright SAID, "I want the comfort and rewards of being royalty without any of the work."

[personal profile] sugar_spun 2013-03-09 01:01 am (UTC)(link)
I agree and disagree. I mean, it didn't bother me that Jasmine wanted to marry for love because in her universe, the only reason she has to is because of some old law no one cares about.

In Merida's it's to prevent a war. And rather then try to lobby her mother about the issue, and make it clear to her that getting married is a big freaking deal to her, she just goes about it in the same bratty, complaining way she goes about everything.

I think maybe I would have been more sympathetic if there wasn't some big taunting moment out on the field where she clearly defied everyone. If she sought out a spell first (even if I do think that's a whole issue in and of itself), she would have come across as less horrible. But making a big show about how she's going to defy tradition and law and humiliating the clan lords? What a terrible idea!

(Anonymous) 2013-03-09 01:07 am (UTC)(link)
I agree that Merida wasn't terribly responsible or long-sighted about the entire marriage situation, but I felt like SHE felt that she had no other choice. She clearly couldn't talk much to her mother about her actual views and feelings, at least not without being criticized heavily. She felt that her only recourse was to rebel and completely shut down the possibility of her marrying - granted, rather explosively and immaturely, but I don't expect rational, mature thinking out of most 14-year-olds, no matter the era in which they were born.

[personal profile] sugar_spun 2013-03-09 01:08 am (UTC)(link)
I excuse her actions (most of them) because she's a teenager, but that doesn't make her a likable or sympathetic character, I think. I think she could have behaved mostly the same way with some important changes and she would have came across as less irresponsible and selfish.

(Anonymous) 2013-03-09 01:02 am (UTC)(link)
So she should just shut up and take it because her problems aren't real? Is that what you're saying?

White, rich, straight, cis people can actually have problems too.

(Anonymous) 2013-03-09 01:10 am (UTC)(link)
(Different Anon)

I think there's a difference between complaining about your problems, and complaining about your privilege. Merida came across, to me, as the latter. (Your Mileage May Varry, of course.) It's like when "white, rich, straight, cis people" (just using your example here) complain about going to college "because they feel like they have to" and don't even consider that for many people, going to college is a privilege. This isn't a 1:1 example, of course... Merida never outright says, "I hate that I HAVE to be educated!" or anything like that, but the way that she stomps all over the castle and nicks food from the kitchen and makes a mess for the servants to clean up and then spends the entire afternoon enjoying a life of leisure at the beginning and says "This is a day where I get to be ME!" came across as complaining about her privilege, like she didn't even consider that the price of that wonderful afternoon was her beautiful castle, her horse, her education, etc...

Anyway, yes, Merida is allowed to complain about her problems, and yes, even royalty can have problems, but it seemed to me that Merida was, more often than not, complaining about being a princess.

(Anonymous) 2013-03-09 01:17 am (UTC)(link)
Here's the thing - Merida is a teenager. In comparison to some teenagers, she's way less destructive than she could have been. Also way less rude. I saw her reactions as rebellious and short-sighted - something virtually every teenager is guilty of doing at SOME point. She started coming into her personality and finding a happy medium with her mother and her life at the end of the movie, as soon as she felt that she was being heard. Half the time, that's all older children or teenagers want - to feel validated, even if they don't get their way.

Merida's main complaint was that her life felt suffocating, with no possible choices that were palatable. Nearing the end of the movie, once she feels that her concerns have been addressed, she seems more open to figuring out a way to meld her wants with the life she already has.

(Anonymous) 2013-03-09 03:01 am (UTC)(link)
I'd agree with you more if those "responsibilities" weren't "have involuntary sex and pregnancies for the rest of your life."

Dodging doing work, fine. Dodging the education she needs to be a princess, fine. Those are all the actions of a brat.

Giving up bodily and sexual autonomy to a strange male? Not so much, thanks.
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[personal profile] diet_poison 2013-03-09 04:08 pm (UTC)(link)
THIS, THANK YOU.

I basically came here to say it and I'm relieved that at least one other person said it first.

People are saying she's "selfish" for not wanting to get married and it makes me wonder if they forgot that marriage isn't just "happy prince and princess ride off into the sunset and drink tea together forever" like we all thought when we were kids.

We're talking about giving up her entire life, basically. Her freedom, her autonomy, her body ffs, whether she wants to have kids with this guy, etc. Her life will belong to him. And people say she's whining because she doesn't want that.

I thought better of you f!s