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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2013-03-08 07:13 pm

[ SECRET POST #2257 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2257 ⌋

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[personal profile] fscom 2013-03-09 12:21 am (UTC)(link)
15. [SPOILERS for Brave, Wreck-It Ralph]
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(Anonymous) 2013-03-09 12:35 am (UTC)(link)
I'm still baffled that Brave won over Wreck-It Ralph or Paranorman.

[personal profile] stormseye 2013-03-09 01:41 am (UTC)(link)
Thoughts and opinions on quality aside, did you really think the Oscars were going to vote for a video game based movie?

The Oscar voters are mostly old white dudes with hardons for movies as their end all be all art form. Wait about 20 years and all the majority of people that actually like or grew up with video games will be the majority of voters.
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[personal profile] spacebabie 2013-03-09 01:50 am (UTC)(link)
This. I liked Brave but thought WIR was much better. Sometimes I wonder if they actually watch the animated movies or just look for Pixar on the list and pick that.

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[personal profile] ex_valour601 2013-03-09 02:07 am (UTC)(link)
I actually saw all of the nominees and then some (aka RotG) and to be quite honest, I didn't think any of them deserved a win in terms of overall quality, because they either had some execution problems (Brave + Paranorman's middle) or were well-done but not spectacular (the other three, but mostly Pirates! and Wreck-It-Ralph, which I both loved).

When it's a year like that I try to look at it in terms of technology, and I wanted Laika to be rewarded for pushing stop-motion a bit further than Burton did, but Merida's hair was just too impressive, I guess. I'm really ambivalent about Brave's win, and I wish there had been something strong enough to push past it.

...I know I put more thought into it than the Oscar voters probably do, but it makes me feel better. I even dream of there being a cinematography category for animation so weaker but beautiful stuff can get nominated (aka RotG, again). That would have been a good fit for Brave.

Now I'm just staring at the various years and wondering how Happy Feet managed to beat Monster House. Oh, animation category. 2002 was the only time I was ever pleased about a win.

EDIT: Oh, but everyone should definitely give Pirates! a rent. IT HAS BRIAN BLESSED IN IT.
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[personal profile] gabzillaz 2013-03-09 02:11 am (UTC)(link)
It's Pixar, it usually gets it by default.

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(Anonymous) 2013-03-09 12:39 am (UTC)(link)
I thought the lesson of Brave was that mothers and daughters should appreciate each other and treat every day together as if it were precious because life is fleeting and you don't know what you have until it's gone.

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[personal profile] deenaa 2013-03-09 12:43 am (UTC)(link)
Wreck-It Ralph was really good and honestly my favourite movie of 2012. It just made me very happy.

Brave in comparison... well, I honestly wanted to like it, but it felt really weak compared to other Pixar works.

So yeah, I know that feeling basically!

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(Anonymous) 2013-03-09 12:46 am (UTC)(link)
Pretty sure you vastly misunderstood Brave - like virtually everyone else in fandom. The points of Brave were that 1) Elinor realized how much she was pushing Merida towards a life that she didn't want, 2) Merida got some perspective on her mother's life and the prospect of her own life without her mother, and 3) that compromise is a good thing. Remember how Elinor allowed Merida to wait to marry, and allow her to choose her own partner? Remember how Merida figured out that Elinor was trying to do what was best for her, based on her own ideas of how a woman should act? Those are all realizations that are the hallmark of an evolving relationship between mother and daughter. Merida seemed like a pretty typical teenager to me, if a badass and self-sufficient one, and Elinor came off as a pretty overbearing mother with good and loving intentions. The fact that they learned to compromise on their ideals is a GOOD THING - it saved their relationship and both of their lives, not to mention the future of their kingdom.

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(Anonymous) 2013-03-09 12:47 am (UTC)(link)
I couldn't stand Brave. I hate stories where characters are born and raised into a life of privilege and plenty, and then go on to complain when they find out it comes with responsibilities too. No, she didn't choose it, but none of us choose our birth, do we? Life isn't required to be fair.

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(Anonymous) 2013-03-09 01:00 am (UTC)(link)
Brave was very pretty to look at, but it very weak over all--probably from having its story changed so many times. The parts where the original story and animation shown through were very good--the parts where Merida bonds with her mother, for example--but all of the slapstick padding and scenes that were obviously thrown in at the last minute really dragged the story down. I just got the impression that the film wasn't sure how to say what it wanted to say, so it tried a little bit of everything.

By comparison, Wreck-It Ralph came across as much more complete. It knew what it wanted to say and then said it very well. I was moved to tears by Wreck-It Ralph, and I felt that his journey of self-acceptance was much more believable and genuine than Merida's journey.

And since it's been brought up in this thread, I'll say that I loved the kind of risks that ParaNorman took! The beginning drags a little, but the second half absolutely blew me away. I'll be interested to see how that movie stands up to the test of time, and how kids who saw ParaNorman in theaters remember it.

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(Anonymous) 2013-03-09 01:06 am (UTC)(link)
I've watched Frankenweenie, Brave, ParaNorman and Wreck-It Ralph. I mean to watch the pirate movie as soon as possible! Honestly, any of the three were more deserving than Brave, though I think Frankenweenie was executed perfectly (and it was my favorite in general (and no I'm not actually that big of a Tim Burton fangirl)).

(Anonymous) 2013-03-09 01:36 am (UTC)(link)
I'll be the first to agree that Wreck-It-Ralph is the better movie in practically every way, but you completely missed the point of the Brave OP.
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[personal profile] gabzillaz 2013-03-09 02:15 am (UTC)(link)
I wanted to love Brave, but it was disappointing in all front, except animation.
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[personal profile] crazed_delusion 2013-03-09 02:18 am (UTC)(link)
In truth I didn't think any of the movies were of Oscar quality this year but I understand why Brave won. It was, if nothing else, gorgeous. And I did enjoy the movie itself as well, but I think it needed more to make it a truly great Pixar film, and not come across as a bratty child, or a child terrified of marrying someone she didn't even know. There needed to be a place between.

Wralph was my favorite of the year. It just took my heart on a whirlwind. I was invested in the characters like nothing else. I pulled for them all and I want more of that world between the games they created.

I wish I could of given them both Oscar, wralph for his story, and brave for I beauty.
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(Anonymous) 2013-03-09 03:21 am (UTC)(link)
I was disappointed by Brave but you seem to have been watching a different movie. Merida gets what she wants! The other children agree that, now that you've mentioned it, they'd like to choose their own destinies too! Merida learns that behaving selfishly has consequences, and her mother realizes that her way of living and ruling is not the only correct one.

(Anonymous) 2013-03-09 04:37 am (UTC)(link)
They state, in the movie, that she doesn't have to end up with any of them if she doesn't want to. "Let them win her heart-If they can.".

(Anonymous) 2013-03-09 04:47 am (UTC)(link)
I love how people complain about Merida and then gush about Vanellope. She stole something that wasn't hers and then spent the rest of the movie whining "But I'm a racerrrr wahhhhh". Hell, most of the characters in WiR are just plain awful people. The nicelanders are pricks, Felix is a selfish turd, and Ralph has sever anger issues.

At least Brave has an ending where people actually change.

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[personal profile] riddian 2013-03-09 05:06 am (UTC)(link)
How come everyone who criticizes Brave completely misses the point of it?

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[personal profile] iggy 2013-03-09 05:19 am (UTC)(link)
They're both fantastic movies. I'm so damn tired over the war between the two (and the holier-than-thou Paranorman-stans).
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[personal profile] diet_poison 2013-03-09 05:56 am (UTC)(link)
ita with you on Brave...it was a good movie but I didn't like some of the implications.

they were both good movies, kind of fun, neither was an All-Time Favorite of mine or anything but I liked them.
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[personal profile] celestinenox 2013-03-09 12:33 pm (UTC)(link)
Wow, someone got the wrong message from Brave.

(Anonymous) 2013-03-09 02:08 pm (UTC)(link)
I personally thought Paranorman was the only really really strong movie in the animated oscar pool, and was hoping for it to win even though the Oscars are all about politics and Laika is too small of a studio to win :(
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[personal profile] nachtmusik 2013-03-10 04:44 am (UTC)(link)
...Except that the conclusion to Brave was that anyone can marry anyone they want in the end? Both Merida and the heirs can choose whoever they damn well please. Also the point was that neither side was right and both needed to do more listening to the other.

It sounds like you wanted Brave to be a self help book to fix your real life problems and you didn't get that so you're trying to call it the lesser movie, which is absurd.

Also maybe you can't handle that Brave suggests that it's not entirely one party's fault. Maybe you wanted it to put all of the blame on the mom.

tl;dr for a tl;dr.

(Anonymous) 2013-03-11 03:42 am (UTC)(link)
I'd been waffling back and forth about Wreck-It Ralph. I wanted to go see it, but I'd feel awkward about going to a kids' movie by myself, and I'm not a big enough gamer to justify going for that reason.

I woke up on opening day feeling really lousy, and decided fine, not going.

But after a progressively *more* lousy day, culminating in my mother throwing a screaming swearing fit while I hid downstairs in the laundry room, I was determined to do *something* positive and hopeful, so I waited until she went to bed and then walked the five miles to the movie theater.

And yeah, the message that somewhere, there are people who will actually value you for who you are and what you can contribute, but you might have to step outside of your comfort zone to find them? Kids' movie or not, that was what I needed to hear.