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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2013-03-10 03:39 pm

[ SECRET POST #2259 ]


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[personal profile] dreemyweird 2013-03-10 08:20 pm (UTC)(link)
Irvin Yalom wrote an awesome book about the fear of death. Staring at the Sun. The guy is an American psychiatrist/psychotherapist, and I like him both as a writer and as a professional.

IDK if you're a kind of person seeking help in books, but if yes, I'd totally advise to read it. It is not a "reasonable arguments" sort of thing, rather a "how to live with this shit" one.

(Anonymous) 2013-03-10 08:49 pm (UTC)(link)
His book "Loves Destroyer" (Well the title is similar to that anyhow..) is also great, years since I've read it but I never forgot it, all about the myth of romantic love.

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[personal profile] insanenoodlyguy 2013-03-10 08:46 pm (UTC)(link)
But... there's nothing left of you that's you, not really. It's some other thing riding around in the twisted corpse that is my body. Fuck that. If I'm not using it anymore, it can go burn.

Though it kinda works from a Nihilist bent. "If I'm dead, the rest of you can fuck off... GO FOR IT TWISTED ABOMINATION, MAKE ME THE LAST THING SOMEBODY SEES"

(Anonymous) 2013-03-10 10:08 pm (UTC)(link)
Maybe? Idk. In DS2/3 we get a lot of close-ups of living people getting "converted" to Necromorphs. It's never really specified whether or not or how much of the original brain might be intact or reanimated or whatever. The idea that necromorphs are just reanimated corpses is also somewhat called into question with the addition of one of the optional missions in DS3... Which is spoilers I guess. I don't know if you've played it yet?
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[personal profile] blitzwing 2013-03-11 03:47 am (UTC)(link)
Though it kinda works from a Nihilist bent. "If I'm dead, the rest of you can fuck off... GO FOR IT TWISTED ABOMINATION, MAKE ME THE LAST THING SOMEBODY SEES"

I want this )':
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[personal profile] dethtoll 2013-03-10 08:51 pm (UTC)(link)
Thing is, though, everything that makes you, well, you, would be already dead. Necromorphs are simply converted flesh made out of existing corpses.

(Anonymous) 2013-03-10 10:01 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm not sure I agree with that. Nowhere in any of the game is that expressly stated. It's not even really implied, as the third game's entire backstory was the most in-depth about Marker history/technology and yet it came out with nothing more concrete about what Necromorphs actually are than the first two games.

It's basically left wide open. OP (and the Unitologists) could be totally correct. That's one of the points about the game that I found so intriguing, myself; the lack of black and white morality to it.

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(Anonymous) 2013-03-10 09:22 pm (UTC)(link)
you sound like my brother. I don't know anything about this game, but he always says he wants to become a zombie instead of just dying outright. That seems... kind of weird. Or he would rather be a vampire, and see everyone else die but live on himself.

IDK. I'm glad I'm not afraid of dying. What a weird thing to be afraid of. Sorry.

(Anonymous) 2013-03-11 12:07 am (UTC)(link)
What a weird thing to be afraid of.

...It's not, though. The self-preservation instinct is hard-wired into almost every member of the human species, and most other species as well. The human ability to realize and contemplate the notion that our existence will one day cease has led to the invention of any number of afterlife beliefs, because so many people find the notion of death so fundamentally horrifying.

It's great that you aren't disturbed by the idea of dying one day, but it's really not that weird or unusual a thing to fear.

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(Anonymous) 2013-03-11 03:32 am (UTC)(link)
You're incredibly lucky, and I envy you. It's absolutely horrible being terrified of the one thing you can't possibly escape. If I think about it too much, it bothers me to the point that I get shaky, my heart starts pounding, and I have to spend the next hour forcing myself to focus on everything else and just "forget" about it. Doesn't help that this usually happens when I'm trying to go to sleep for the night...
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[personal profile] lunabee34 2013-03-10 09:51 pm (UTC)(link)
*hugs*

I'm really afraid of dying as well. I was raised with fundamentalist beliefs that I was able to break away from as an adult, but I would almost rather die and go to the hell my parents believe in than die and just be nothing. :( The thought that we die and there's nothing else really frightens me. I know some people find it a comforting thought, my husband included. IDK.

(Anonymous) 2013-03-11 12:41 am (UTC)(link)
The thought that we die and there's nothing else really frightens me.

Me too. It's a deep-seated fear of mine as well. I hate the idea that one moment, I exist, and in the next, I'm gone. I'm glad to know I'm not the only one.

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(Anonymous) 2013-03-10 10:44 pm (UTC)(link)
For some reason, and of course I can't think of an exact quote, but I feel like a Battlestar Gallatica (2004 series) belongs here.
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[identity profile] with-rainfall.livejournal.com 2013-03-11 12:01 am (UTC)(link)
Dunno if this helps, OP, but Epicurus said (paraphrased, sorry!) that it's useless to be afraid of death, because it's no trouble when it actually comes. Essentially, he says, we'll cease to exist after death just like we were nonexistent before it, so why cause yourself unnecessary pain/stress/trouble by worrying about something that isn't troubling in itself?' - i.e. the prospect of nonexistence?

I have no idea what the fandom is, but I thought I'd throw that out there.
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[personal profile] elephantinegrace 2013-03-11 12:07 am (UTC)(link)
Plus, it's going to happen no matter how scared or not scared of it you are. Might as well resign yourself to the fact that one day you're going to stop existing and try to enjoy the days you have left.

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(Anonymous) 2013-03-11 12:19 am (UTC)(link)
Take comfort in this: absolutely no one knows what follows death. It may not be 'nothingness' at all (if such a thing can truly exist.) It's natural for living things to fear death but I think living forever would be a thousand times scarier and plain depressing.

(Anonymous) 2013-03-11 12:38 am (UTC)(link)
It's natural for living things to fear death but I think living forever would be a thousand times scarier and plain depressing.

Depends, I think. If you still could die, but found a way to infinitely postpone it barring, say, accidents or violence, then I wouldn't mind. So long as the option for death/destruction is always there, so you're not infinitely trapped in this one existence, I think it might be cool to see how far you could get and what you'd find along the way.

But to be stuck permanently, yes, that would be ... There are too many things that can happen to you that would be horrifying were death not an option at the end of it. Degradation without cessation is a worse thought for me, too.
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[personal profile] mudousetsuna 2013-03-11 12:50 am (UTC)(link)
OMFG please be a troll. *cries*

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(Anonymous) 2013-03-11 01:18 am (UTC)(link)
Not trolling.

(Anonymous) 2013-03-11 02:07 am (UTC)(link)
To bring a religious bent to this (and fandom can hate on me and/or ridicule me all they want for this), there is the idea that you any fictional religion can be your religion and that new gods/all that goes with them can come into existence. Some people worship/work with the guardians from Rise of the Guardians, some people use Digimon crests as sigils. It happens and it's valid. So there is no saying that Unitolgy can't be a real thing. It's your religious belief and practice, do what you want (as long as you're not screwing anyone over).

(Anonymous) 2013-03-11 02:46 am (UTC)(link)
Dead Space is a game series about people getting transformed into hideous, cannibalistic, homidical monster aliens (that are apparently essentially immortal) and the religious sect that believes that this is the next stage of human evolution.

It's basically a plague of monsters spreading throughout the galaxy and ending/assimilating all life it touches. I'm pretty sure that that was the secret part of the secret.

(Anonymous) 2013-03-11 07:31 pm (UTC)(link)
No. It's not valid.

That's ridiculous.

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(Anonymous) 2013-03-11 06:20 pm (UTC)(link)
OP, I've had trouble coming to terms with the concept of nonexistence. It seems fundamentally terrifying, and when I was a teenager thinking about it would sometimes render me anxious to the point of being nonfunctional. The biggest thing I've found to console myself is the idea that, when I'm old and rickety, with grandchildren and all my life's accomplishments under my belt, the idea won't bother me as much. I use it as motivation to do all the things I want to do with my life before it's too late, because that's the only condition under which the impending inevitability of nonexistence won't terrify me. I hope to think of it less as ceasing to exist, and more of finally resting after a full, warm, stressful, exhausting life.

(Anonymous) 2013-03-11 06:38 pm (UTC)(link)
This may make it worse or better, but it helps me to think of it this way; if you don't exist, you won't be able to know that you don't exist, so it won't bother you.