[ SECRET POST #2259 ]

[case]

⌈ Secret Post #2259 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

01.


__________________________________________________



02.


__________________________________________________



03.


__________________________________________________



04.


__________________________________________________



05.


__________________________________________________



06.


__________________________________________________



07.


__________________________________________________



08.


__________________________________________________



09.


__________________________________________________



10.


__________________________________________________



11.


__________________________________________________



12.


__________________________________________________



13.


__________________________________________________



14.


__________________________________________________



15.


__________________________________________________



16.


__________________________________________________
















Notes:

Secrets Left to Post: 04 pages, 100 secrets from Secret Submission Post #323.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 0 - broken links ], [ 1 - not!secrets ], [ 0 - not!fandom ], [ 0 - too big ], [ 1 - repeat ].
Current Secret Submissions Post: here.
Suggestions, comments, and concerns should go here.

Comments

[fscom]

09. http://25.media.tumblr.com/15931f5242ff76315fedf7d0e7d226db/tumblr_mj2jgfcTpN1rq2vv5o1_500.jpg

[dreemyweird]

I feel like fandom is largely about wish fulfillment (which is not a bad thing; that was actually a major part of the reason why I entered it in the first place), and, although self-insert is usually less welcome (since it is very personal and normally does not bring pleasure to other fans), I don't think it should be kept secret.

[elephantinegrace]

"Everyone in this room is shippable. Even I am shippable. But that is called self-insertion, my dear children, and is in fact frowned upon in most fandoms."

But yeah, fandom is largely wish fulfillment (yes, Attractive Characters A and B are being fluffy/filthy!) and self-insertion can make a good read if it's done well.

[(Anonymous)]

Just do it and have fun. If you do it (shipping/meta/fic/whatever) with enough depth, how will people be able to tell it's just self insert fantasy?
(Besides the fact that they haven't even met in canon, I mean. Besides that.)

[dreemyweird]

Yeah. I'm not sure what's stranger - MorMor, where one half of the pairing is non-existent, or this.

[funyarinpainahat]

The people I know that ship it (and I sort of do, myself) seem to base it on four things:

1. Lestrade and Mycroft must have known each other for at least half a decade; Lestrade says in ASiP that he's known Sherlock for five years, and we all saw what Mycroft did to John when they met...

2. The fact that they work very closely together in the book. (Lestrade reports directly to Mycroft, it seems, and no other Yarders do that. They also show up together at 221B at one point)

3. Lestrade's "I don't just do what your...brother tells me" line in Baskerville, because it's incredibly awkward-seeming on his end, and he adopts the same body language as when he was flustered by Molly in Scandal.

4. Rupert and Mark (Mark especially) support the idea of the pairing.

[(Anonymous)]

HUH. I could definitely get into this. I'd forgotten about that line in Baskervilles... I've read the pairing before, but never really thought about the rationale behind it. I think OP shouldn't worry so much.

[making_excuses]

I love you for this comment! Seriously, now I can just copy-paste it and send it to my friend the next time she mocks me for shiping them!

[(Anonymous)]

3. Lestrade's "I don't just do what your...brother tells me" line in Baskerville, because it's incredibly awkward-seeming on his end, and he adopts the same body language as when he was flustered by Molly in Scandal.

I feel like I'm the only one who saw Lestrade's "I don't just do what your brother tells me" as meaning that he was there because he was worried about Sherlock. Mycroft told him to check up on Sherlock, but he went because of Sherlock, not because he was ordered to go and he responds awkwardly because he knows Sherlock would mock him for his concern.

[(Anonymous)]

That's probably the best photo of Gatiss I've ever seen.

Original Image

[(Anonymous)]

[(Anonymous)]

...but it's really cute. Most of the fics I've seen and enjoyed were "realized he was kind of hot, then bonds over rugby and completely being annoyed with Sherlock" and it just fits the universe so neatly. Also, sometimes I really like being removed from the John/Sherlock drama.

[funyarinpainahat]

Their appeal seems to come from the fact that they're the most mature pairing in the BBC-verse, and as such, there isn't so much drama. Anything written about them focuses not just on them and their relationship, but the fact that they're well-rounded characters who have careers and lives outside of their relationship. That's something you don't see with a lot of pairings, ever.

[(Anonymous)]

MTE

I'm not even in Sherlock-fandom anymore, mostly because of me getting tired of all the John/Sherlock, but damn, Lestrade/Mycroft was such a fun pairing because they were so mature.

[funyarinpainahat]

As someone who hangs out within the fandom, it's definitely gotten more popular. I'd say it's doubled in size since S2 aired, but that would be a conservative estimate.

[kluify]

And here I was thinking Mycroft/Lestrade was just about pairing the spares... (Not that that makes it bad. I think I enjoy the idea the of their relationship more than Sherlock and John's at this point.)

[funyarinpainahat]

Well like I said above, there is canon evidence (on the BBC show, from interviews with the actors, and from the ACD books) to support it.

But even if some people are just pairing the spares, it makes more sense than Johnlock.

[(Anonymous)]

Uh, have Mycroft and Lestrade even met onscreen?

[(Anonymous)]

To quote a post above:
"The people I know that ship it (and I sort of do, myself) seem to base it on four things:

1. Lestrade and Mycroft must have known each other for at least half a decade; Lestrade says in ASiP that he's known Sherlock for five years, and we all saw what Mycroft did to John when they met...

2. The fact that they work very closely together in the book. (Lestrade reports directly to Mycroft, it seems, and no other Yarders do that. They also show up together at 221B at one point)

3. Lestrade's "I don't just do what your...brother tells me" line in Baskerville, because it's incredibly awkward-seeming on his end, and he adopts the same body language as when he was flustered by Molly in Scandal.

4. Rupert and Mark (Mark especially) support the idea of the pairing."

So no, they haven't met onscreen. But they have met, and have more of a basis for a relationship the Sherlock and John.

[(Anonymous)]

and have more of a basis for a relationship the Sherlock and John.

How so?

[(Anonymous)]

I'm sure it is pairing the spares for some, but definitely not for everybody in the ship.

I shipped basically everything at first (except for Moriarty, I don't like any pairings with him and never have,) but settled on M/L about a year ago and, while I don't mind anything as a side pairing, all I really care about now is M/L.

It's my OTP of OTPs. And I probably never would have come around to realizing that if early authors HADN'T paired these spares.

[scherrymouse]

To me, John and Sherlock are the spares. I think it depends what the primary pairing of the story is - if the story is mainly Johnlock with a side of Mystrade, it will probably seem like Mycroft and Lestrade are the spares, yeah, unless it actually isn't and the writer's good enough to bring that across.

But since I try to avoid John/Sherlock, difficult as that unfortunately is, I've never got that impression about Mycroft/Lestrade, myself.