[ SECRET POST #2260 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #2260 ⌋

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Comments

[(Anonymous)]

Willow had a lot of power and natural talent but she was a horrible mind-raping Wiccan.

There, that's my secret. She sucked when she had power, abused people who trusted her, and she was old enough to know better when she did it all.

I will never understand people who admire her or identify with her.

[(Anonymous)]

OP

Agreed, she was totally on a power trip 'look how bad arse I am' kinda deal with Wicca for a good portion of the show. Tara was the one who really had it together, but Willow was so full of her own self created identity as this big bad, numero uno Wiccan that she wasn't prepared to listen to Tara's reasoning.

Don't get me wrong, I love the character of Willow, but as a Wiccan I don't admire or identify with her. I just think her story arc in regards to her journey with Wicca a was a realistic one, sans the insta!magic of course. I have come across a lot of teens who did start out all 'OMG, this is so awesome, I can do all these really neat spells, like making this guy/girl I fancy like me, and I can be all cool and mysterious, and now that I'm Wiccan I'm totes this bad arse rebel, because NEVER AGAIN THE BURNING TIMES!!!111' etc etc. And invariably when someone with more experience in the craft tries to explain to them that there are certain things they need to learn and understand first, that person tends to be either dismissed or shot down in flames (just like Willow did with the Wicca group when she dismissed them as a bunch of 'wanna blessed be's'). That is until the teenager, if they stick with Wicca, has actually been in the craft for a while and they come to realise that 'hey, you know all that stuff that those older, more experiences Wiccans were trying to teach me, that stuff is actually pretty important and I need to pay more attention and learn' - just like Willow finally did when she went to England with Giles to study with the Devon Coven.

If anything, for the most part, I think Willow is a realistical example of how not to travel the Wiccan path. I'd have no problem using her story arc in Buffy as a teaching aid for young Wiccans who are just starting out, as a way to illustrate why its important to learn stuff they might think is boring or irrelevant, because they're amping to get to the cool stuff.

[(Anonymous)]

ayrt

Additionally, you made a great connection for me between her dismissing the college group Wiccans and her lessons in England....you're right. She had to get to the point of world destruction before she could understand that those college girls had a better grasp of Wicca than she did.

The thing is, I think Whedon coded those scenes when she was sitting in with the college group as her being right and the girls being kind of kumbaya hippies who didn't have a clue about the true Wicca.

And yes, I totally agree. I think her arc was a great lesson in arrogance and doing things the hard way, which she never wanted to do. I just get too caught up in the narrative and I'm ridiculously, irrationally angry at her for causing Buffy the trauma she did by resurrecting her, and mind wiping Tara. I apologize if I offended you as a Willow fan.

[(Anonymous)]

OP/AYRT

Oh no, you didn't offend me at all. And although I loved season 6, I was not a big fan of Willow during that time. She hid behind her idea of 'I'm just doing this to help people', but I loved what Tara said to her, that maybe that's how it started but now she was fixing things to her liking, including Tara, because she was so spot on. I know it would never have happened this way, but if Whedon had already planned to end Tara and Willow's relationship with the death of one of them, part of me would have been very interested to have seen how it would have panned out had Willow been the one to die. It would have been interesting to see Tara's response to that level of grief, compared to Willow's 'like to smash, smash now' kinda reaction.

[(Anonymous)]

I just wish they'd dealt with those issues beyond "she's addicted to magic like it's crack" and "if her girlfriend dies she'll just go completely batshit." I don't mind characters changing, I mind them changing in ways that don't really make sense.

Then again, Season Six was really just one big Very Special Season. Don't hide depression from friends, don't have weird sex with vampires, don't shoplift, don't do drugs magic..