[ SECRET POST #2261 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #2261 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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02.
[The Gamers 2: Dorkness Rising]


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03.
[My Mad Fat Diary]


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04.
[Homestuck]


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05.
[Prequel]


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06.
[Kaichou wa Maid-sama, Nana, UraBoku, Sukitte Ii na yo, Tonari no Kaibutsu-kun, and Sakurasou no Pet na Kanojo]


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07.
[Skyrim]


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08.
[Dangan Ronpa]


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09.
[Star Wars/Spaceballs]


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10.
[Baraka]


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11.
[Yosoeb Yang / B2ST]


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12.
[Wolf Children Ame & Yuki]


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13.
[Charmed]


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14.
[The Following]


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15.
[Sherlock]


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16.
[Penny and Aggie]


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17.
[Teen Wolf]


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18.
[Sengoku Basara]


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19.
[Big Bang Theory]


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Comments

[(Anonymous)]

I don't know what the context is, but I can come up with several possible explanations for why someone would focus on that:
--If the donkey is being abused by a protagonist, but the surrounding poverty is just sort of there with no one clearly to blame, people may focus on the wrong which has a bad guy. If the poverty is presented as the doing of an antagonist, people may take the antagonist's badness for granted and comment on the wrongdoing of the protagonist.
--In general, some people are affected by abuse when they are not responsive to suffering without abuse.
--And, yeah, some people feel sorry for animals more than they feel sorry for people.

[(Anonymous)]

I've never been able to personally understand that. Why would someone feel more sorry for an animal than an actual person? I understand about animal rights and all that, but doesn't human suffering kind of trump that?

[visp]

It's not really true though. People talk about how everyone hated Vick for dogfighting, but can you imagine what would have happened if he was taking children and forcing them to fight - sometimes to the death - for his own amusement and for gambling? He'd get the death penalty.

[(Anonymous)]

It depends on what kind of "care" you're talking about. People might be more emotionally affected by seeing an innocent, uncomprehending animal who doesn't understand why its being punished for no reason being hurt than an intelligent, sapient person who can comprehend his/her condition and reasons for their suffering being hurt. It's similar to being more affected by children's suffering than adults'.

Feeling that way doesn't mean they don't intellectually prioritize human suffering above animal suffering or believe animal suffering is somehow more important.

+1

[(Anonymous)]

I just have a more visceral reaction to children and animals suffering than I do to adults, because children and animals are unquestionably innocent and dependent on others for their safety. They're more helpless. At least adults have SOME power to attempt to escape their circumstances; children and animals can't even do that.

Re: +1

[(Anonymous)]

Way to victim-blame, dude. By the way, children run away,animals kick and bite.

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[(Anonymous)]

LOL you really think that a child or an animal has the same ability to escape someone abusing them that an adult does? please.

it's not "victim-blaming" to point out that, unless they are being physically held captive, a typical adult has the ability to get out of most situations. children and animals don't. that's why laws state that parents/guardians and owners are responsible for them - because they can't take care of themselves.

[(Anonymous)]

On a related note, I don't get why some people get all judgey if you opt to donate to an animal charity rather than a human one. Everything's important and we can't see to it all as individuals. I'm relying on you to do your thing for your cause and I'll do what I can for mine because it's no good for any of them to get left behind.

[(Anonymous)]

EXACTLY.

[anonymouslyyours]

I think it's harder to deal with an animal getting hurt because there's no question of it's innocence and vulnerability and the fact it can't understand what is going on. But human suffering ...it's like people build up a kind of immunity against empathizing with people too far removed from their lives and there's always some kind of shitty victim-blaming or expectation of boot-strapping one can engage in so they don't have to acknowledge the awful feelings.

I don't know if I'm explaining this right.

[(Anonymous)]

I'm so glad you're here again!

:)

[anonymouslyyours]

Thank you random citizen!

Confused!Anon

[(Anonymous)]

I can see what you're all getting at, thank you for explaining it to me. I think I can understand it now.

[(Anonymous)]

Baraka is a documentary film with no narrative; it's a mix of different scenes that aren't sorted by any kind of priority. It does portray many kinds of misery with both people and animals, so I guess you can tell something about a person based on which scene upsets them the most.

[(Anonymous)]

Again, not necessarily. Poverty is an institutional condition. Abuse is a personal, deliberate action of one person against another. The two produce very different emotional reactions. In stories, why do you think it's 100X easier to hate a specific villain than a societal situation, regardless of what causes more suffering?

[(Anonymous)]

NAYRT

Anon you are being obtuse. The donkey is pulling an incredibly heavy load and seems to be in some distress. The person who seems to own the donkey is obviously suffering from terrible poverty - for fuck's sake the whole scene here is people searching through garbage heaps, looking for things they can use to survive (whether it be food or clothing or something they might be able to sell, I don't know, they're filmed from a bit of a distance so it's kind of hard to tell).

If your reaction to this is "that poor poor donkey what a horrible evil abusive person" then you need to reconsider your priorities because you are a fucking tool.

[(Anonymous)]

So, it's just overloaded and distressed?

I would put "distressed donkey pulling extremely heavy load" under the same heading of "my god this place sucks so bad for everyone and everything that lives there". There's a difference between that and someone deciding their life sucks so they're going to beat the crap out of their donkey for no discernible reason. The latter is abuse; the former is environmental suckiness.

I would argue that when the animal is living under the same conditions as everybody else is, and those conditions are not voluntary, that's not abuse.