[ SECRET POST #2262 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #2262 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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Notes:

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Comments

[(Anonymous)]

Seriously?

It's not just the wizards who won't hire house elves. All the other house-elves regard Dobby as deviant and explicitly reject any desire to be paid. That might be fucked up but it seems to be what they want insofar as they're able to say. They want to serve wizards and they don't want to be paid for it. They treat the prospect of being freed mostly as a threat. I mean, maybe my memory of that chapter and other house-elf oriented stuff is wrong, but I really don't remember anything other than rejection of the notion of wages or self-mastery.

I don't see any evidence for saying that Dobby isn't just a weirdo. And it's okay that he's a weirdo, he's an awesome weirdo, but that's what he is. I really don't see any inchoate, half-expressed desires for freedom in other house elves. They seem to be pretty negative on the whole deal.

[intrigueing]

Yeah, that's...exactly what I said? Where did I say other House Elves ever expressed a desire to be free? I said the exact opposite: the way they treated Dobby and their situation was really fucked up. Like there was some weird culture that sprang up among House Elves because apart from Dobby, they all equated being free with not being able to serve humans, and therefore treated Dobby like some dangerous crazy radical who was an affront to the House Elf way of life or something.

[(Anonymous)]

What? But how does that square up with your theory that the only reason they're okay with being enslaved is that they want to serve humans?

If that's the case, wouldn't they be super-inspired by Dobby because he found a way to still serve humans while throwing off the bonds of slavery? Instead of categorically objecting to it? Because Dobby is still serving humans. That's what he's doing. If all they cared about was serving humans they wouldn't have an issue with Dobby and they certainly wouldn't reject being paid with so much fervor.

[intrigueing]

If that's the case, wouldn't they be super-inspired by Dobby because he found a way to still serve humans while throwing off the bonds of slavery?

Um...no? It wouldn't? That never, ever happens in society. People develop ideas about how things "should" be over the generations, and then, even when changes are in their favor, they lash out at any attempts to change it. Like, some major opponents to women's lib were other women who thought it "unseemly" for women to do things that were a "man's" job and shit like that.