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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2013-03-18 06:42 pm

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[personal profile] wldcatsprstr_14 2013-03-19 12:02 am (UTC)(link)
I'm not all worked up like the AYRT but I see why they would be. Especially if they're LGBTQ-oriented. Coming out for such a person could get them disowned, beating, or even killed. 'Coming out' to say that you just never wanna have sex ever with anyone at all? Having some people go bug-eyed and ask stupid questions about why you don't wanna shag is not even close to the kind of victimization that LGBTQ-oriented people can face. I could see why the AYRT would get really upset about someone insinuating that the two are similar in any way.

(Anonymous) 2013-03-19 12:14 am (UTC)(link)
The stupid thing with all of this though is it completely ignores personal circumstances. I came out to my family and friends as gay, and guess what? Everyone was supportive and nobody cared.

Am I lucky? Sure I guess, but most people in my community are like that. I'm not some crazy exception. What makes my life so much worse than someone who's asexual? Why do I get the right to complain and cry oppression for something that's barely ever affected me but if someone else suffers constant ridicule and feels left out of a huge chunk of society because of their sexual orientation then they should just shut up and deal with it? Just because they don't fit on to some approved list of 'oppressed minorities'?

If shitty things happen to you they're shitty regardless of the categories you fit in to.

I'm not saying homophobia isn't a huge problem, but it's an incredibly complex issue and you can't just reduce it to: LGBT? Oh you poor thing nobody has suffered more than you. Anything else? Fuck you your life is great stop whining.
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[personal profile] wldcatsprstr_14 2013-03-19 12:23 am (UTC)(link)
I never said people should shut up and take ridicule. Ever.

And yes, it's personal and varies from situation to situation. But that doesn't change the facts of the matter. The chances that someone who tells another that they're asexual will get beaten to hell and back by close-minded idiots are a hell of a lot slimmer than if a gay person does it. It's a difference in kind and in degree.

Being ridiculed for who you do or don't shag is shitty. But calling it oppression cuz some asshat fires off 10 rapid questions when you tell them you're asexual? That's going far and slights groups that actually are oppressed by society and the government.

(Anonymous) 2013-03-19 05:53 am (UTC)(link)
THANK YOU. I am sick and tired of seeing 'baww i'm oppressed bc someone questioned my asexuality' continuously being a reoccurring theme.

(Anonymous) 2013-03-19 12:19 am (UTC)(link)
AYRT, and yes I do get pissed when asexuals think coming out as not wanting to have sex is this super oppressive ordeal. I came out and was kicked out of my house. Fortunately (and strangely) my father was a lot more open than my mother and had no problem helping me move across the country to live with him.

As a whole, being homosexual is so much more dangerous than being asexual it is laughable people even compare the two.

(Anonymous) 2013-03-19 07:52 am (UTC)(link)
The part that fucks me off is that while I was closeted, I never spoke to friends and family about boyfriends or girlfriends or dates or sex or expressed any interest in relationships of any kind. You know - like an asexual. I got some annoying questions now and again from nosier relatives, because marriage and family are very important in my community. But so what if people thought it a bit weird? Or told me that I'd change my mind and find somebody later? It did me no harm. That didn't hurt. The idea that if I did find somebody, my friends and family might not respect our relationship or treat her with respect and kindness? That hurt.

People don't need to know every aspect of your desires, life or identity.

Coming out as asexual. Christ fucking Jesus.

(Anonymous) 2013-03-20 07:35 am (UTC)(link)
+10000000000000000000000000

(Anonymous) 2013-03-19 08:06 pm (UTC)(link)
I have friends who understand and accept homosexuality but they don't understand asexuality. It's like something seriously bizarre for them. Could even need some medical help.
Yes, asexuals aren't oppressed actively in a way you think but god it baffles me when people get all angry about asexuality and brush their problems under a carpet. Tells how accepting/understanding they really are about this form of sexuality.
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[personal profile] wldcatsprstr_14 2013-03-19 08:26 pm (UTC)(link)
Honestly, I think homosexuality is easier to understand than asexuality for some people. Being sexually attracted to someone different than I'm attracted to is something most (rational) people can get. But the concept of not being sexually attracted to anyone just doesn't make sense to some people cuz sexual feelings are the norm for human beings. I dont think those people are dicks for asking a ton of questions or just not getting it. They only become dicks when they act like dicks and are malicious towards asexual people, telling them they need to be fixed or need to 'find the right girl/guy.'

(Anonymous) 2013-03-20 12:19 am (UTC)(link)
And that's exactly the reason why asexuals feel harassed. When people act like dicks about it and it DOES happen. I have been told all the things you mentioned + the golden one: my asexuality must be a made up excuse for "not getting any". Nice. Actually someone evne called the OP not an "actual asexual".

I hate how some people here talk like us asexuals can't complain about anything because our "oppression level" doesn't reach a certain point. That's plain mean spirited and no one should endure it! Yes, we may not be oppressed in a way they think but we do get a LOT of shit.