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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2013-03-18 06:42 pm

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(Anonymous) 2013-03-19 12:06 am (UTC)(link)
"They're also free to get married if they want or not get married. Have relationships if they want or not have them. Live wherever they want. Go wherever they want. Work wherever they want."

None of this applies to homoromantic asexuals.
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[personal profile] wldcatsprstr_14 2013-03-19 12:08 am (UTC)(link)
You know, I was actually gonna throw that in there but then I looked at how long it was and started to feel like I'd come off as angry or ranty so I didn't.

But yes, this is very true.
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[personal profile] elephantinegrace 2013-03-19 12:15 am (UTC)(link)
I'm just going to link a few comments back up on the thread and leave the discussion.

http://fandomsecrets.dreamwidth.org/775105.html?thread=638961089#cmt638961089

(And it wasn't that long or angry or ranty. You do have good points, but I feel like people ignore the emotional oppression because it doesn't leave scars like physical oppression does. Also, yay Merlin icon!)
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[personal profile] wldcatsprstr_14 2013-03-19 12:25 am (UTC)(link)
Ugh, I felt the first few lines of that comment and felt sick. WTF people?? That anon needs to ditch those asshole friends.

(Anonymous) 2013-03-19 01:32 am (UTC)(link)
But they are denied those rights because of their homosexuality, not their asexuality.

(Anonymous) 2013-03-19 05:00 pm (UTC)(link)
Yes, but everyone's just saying "asexual" in this thread as if there's only one type of asexual. Saying that "asexuals can't be oppressed because of their sexuality" is completely erasing of non-hetero asexuals. People aren't opposed for being asexual, true, but some types of asexuals can still be oppressed because of their sexuality.

(Anonymous) 2013-03-20 10:06 am (UTC)(link)
you're splitting hairs

asexuals are not oppressed because of their sexuality -- in that they are not oppressed for being asexual

gay, lesbian, bi and trans individuals who are asexual are oppressed for being gay, lesbian, bi, or trans. not for being asexual. i'm so sick of all of thise 'homoromantic' shit. being GAY does not automatically mean you have a ton of sex, etc, it means you are a man who prefers to pursue romantic and or sexual relationships with other men, etc down the line. that or is very important. jfc

why is this hard for you, etc etc no one is being erased you're splitting hairs

(Anonymous) 2013-03-20 11:44 pm (UTC)(link)
'homoromantic' shit. being GAY does not automatically mean you have a ton of sex

No, but being homoSEXUAL does mean that you're sexually attracted to some people of the same sex, even if it's only once in a blue moon, or of people you get emotionally attached to. If you're a homo-romantic asexual (as I am) that means that I never have, and (unless something drastically changes) never will be sexually attracted to anyone.

Besides which, I often just refer to myself as homo-asexual (it's a lot shorter), but people often misread as saying I'm homosexual, and then wires get crossed, and things get awkward.

You seem to be trying to take offence at things where there's none to take. Calling myself homo-romantic doesn't meant that I think that homosexual people are attracted to everyone, nor does it man that I believe that homosexual people don't have any capacity for romance. It just means that I like same-sex people, but it will only ever be in a romantic way, never in a sexual way, and it's my way of communicating that to people without constantly having to go into great lengths explaining it.

Why is that so hard for you to understand?

(Anonymous) 2013-03-23 08:13 am (UTC)(link)
How words work. You seem not to know.

The sexual in homosexual means "Sex of" as in the gender of the person you pursue relations with, whether sexual in nature or not.

Homosexual -- you are a person who pursues homo sexed persons -- persons who share the same sex as you.

Bisexual -- you are a person who prefers both sexes

etc. down the line. Why is this so hard for you?? You can't just magically make words mean something they just don't. Also, a history of gay people being accused of being sex crazed maniacs needs to be addressed here, especially because you're a queer person as well, trying to divorce yourself from being considered 'homosexual' because oh god, the word sex, I'm not one of those sex havers.... seriously. It's really fucked up.

(Anonymous) 2013-03-20 10:03 am (UTC)(link)
homoromantic asexuals are members of the LGBT community in that they are same sex oriented. They are not members of the LGBT community for being asexual.

due to their being homoromantic, they are oppressed for their sexuality, yes. because sexuality in this case is not HAVING sex, it's the sex/gender of your partner.