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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2007-09-08 05:11 pm

[ SECRET POST #246 ]


⌈ Secret Post #246 ⌋

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Have some more random bite links! Devilbats. ♥

Secrets Left to Post: 09 pages, 219 secrets from Secret Submission Post #036.
Secrets Not Posted: 0 broken links, [ 1 ] not!secrets, 0 not!fandom.
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Re: TWENTY (no I'm not the OP)

(Anonymous) 2007-09-08 11:07 pm (UTC)(link)
"I don't feel like it"...?

Seriously, do yourself a favor and play whatever game you're into (be it FFVIII or whatever else) or even just watch someone else play through it if you're bad at gaming but love the story. If you think facts online are all that are needed to be gathered about the characters you supposedly love, you're showing an insane amount of disrespect towards them.

If you can't access the canon for a story and see it with your own eyes, regardless of the series or the medium, the solution is simple: Don't join the fandom until you do. And you know what? It's cool if you research up on a series to just enjoy a fandom. It's not cool when said research on its own makes you feel entitled to start writing about the series.

Re: TWENTY (no I'm not the OP)

[identity profile] dorknessrising.livejournal.com 2007-09-08 11:37 pm (UTC)(link)
"YOU DON'T KNOW THE HISTORY OF FFVII! I DO!"

LOL SRS BIZNESS.

Re: TWENTY (no I'm not the OP)

(Anonymous) 2007-09-09 04:14 am (UTC)(link)
Lol, you obviously are fortunate enough to be in a less retarded fandom.

Re: TWENTY (no I'm not the OP)

[identity profile] dorknessrising.livejournal.com 2007-09-09 04:47 am (UTC)(link)
Oh, my fandom is plenty retarded. But I'm not about to begrudge people who haven't seen the whole series from joining it.

Re: TWENTY (no I'm not the OP)

[identity profile] kinneas.livejournal.com 2007-09-09 06:56 am (UTC)(link)
I don't entirely see what's so acceptable about not just not being ABLE to play the game, but not giving a flying fuck one way or another to even see ANY of the source material, INCLUDING Compilation, like this secret is in reply to.

This isn't like some anime or TV show you can watch part of and understand it up to that point. This is like joining the fandom after watching the shitty OAV that took place in one location completely made up from the original anime and in additionn got all the characterization dead wrong.

Re: TWENTY (no I'm not the OP)

[identity profile] dorknessrising.livejournal.com 2007-09-09 01:47 pm (UTC)(link)
Maybe because there isn't much point in getting your panties knotted over who decides to join your fandom? You don't own fandom, and you don't get to dictate who can join it and who can't. Trying to do so makes you more of a wanky asshat than any badfic author.

The original secret never even mentioned writing fanfiction, so I don't see why it matters what they think about characterization. And even if they had? One more badfic author in a roiling sea of them. The world won't end, I promise.

It's just fandom, and people need to chill out.

Re: TWENTY (no I'm not the OP)

[identity profile] sparklemagpie.livejournal.com 2007-09-08 11:43 pm (UTC)(link)
Why would I stay out of the fandom for a series I want to get to know? Stay away from all the other fans who can educate me or connect me to the canon until I can get the canon on my own?

If my research is good enough and if I educate myself well enough, there's no reason that I SHOULDN'T write about a series. Either I'll (hopefully) get con-crit and learn or I'll improve the more I find out on my own. And don't get me wrong, in all instances I prefer to enjoy the canon, be it watching all of a show or reading all of a book series, but in some cases I run across something I love (or something I just want to be INCLUDED in because none of my friends can shut up about it) that's just not my usual forte, and I give it a go anyway in my own way.

But at least I'm trying to understand, and I'm not harming anyone by writing a fanfic that you think is crappy. You don't have to read it, or at least not for longer than the 30 seconds it will take you to ascertain that you think it sucks and hit 'back'.


Yes people that write stupid not-thought-out stories with bad characterization can be really annoying, but people that HAVE seen the entire canon still do that anyway. Unfortunately, there will ALWAYS be shitty fic and stupid people in your fandom even if everyone played the game or watched the show ten times first.

And I DO understand how with FFVII especially you end up with people who've seen Advent Children but never played the game and now you have this 'new generation' of swarms of fangirls going 'OMFG SEPHIROTH' cause he's pretty and badass but they know nothing else about him, and they all want to write stories where he has babies with their Mary Sue. I'm SURE that it must make you want to tear your hair out in a rage.

But before you uproot all your follicles, try that back button out. I know it sucks to have a fandom that's bombarded with newbs that are only there for the shinies but in the end, it's only fandom. You just have to take a deep breath, back away slowly, and seek out something better and leave the horrors alone.

(Start a 'canon completed only' comm on LJ or something where you screen memberships if you want to make yourself a safe haven of like-minded people perhaps?)