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fandomsecrets2013-03-19 06:47 pm
case) wrote in fandomsecrets2013-03-19 06:47 pm
[ SECRET POST #2268 ]
⌈ Secret Post #2268 ⌋
Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.
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Notes:
Secrets Left to Post: 03 pages, 055 secrets from Secret Submission Post #324.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 0 - broken links ], [ 0 - not!secrets ], [ 0 - not!fandom ], [ 0 - too big ], [ 0 - repeat ].
Current Secret Submissions Post: here.
Suggestions, comments, and concerns should go here.
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That's just it right there, you don't do that on Tumblr - what you do is reblog it, creating your own post, and then add whatever commentary or expansion you want. And it's forward movement only. Look at all the threads here on this post alone - dozens, maybe even hundreds, but they are all kept in a linear fashion, and when you respond to someone you respond directly to them, but also where others can see. On Tumblr you don't ever respond to anyone, you have to put it on your own blog and either send the person you are responding to a link to your response/post or just hope like hell that they see it - which they might not, if they follow a lot of people and/or don't spend that much time on Tumblr. Sure, you can check the notes on a post, but if there are more than a few hundreds then it's a pain in the ass to scroll through them to look for the right response. It branches outward, but never back.
end purpose and usage is exactly the same.
Again, no it's not. Let's say you take this secret we're all talking about it, create a post for it on LJ and a post for it on Tumblr. On LJ people can talk about to each other, but on Tumblr you would say something about it and it would go on your own blog, not on the post itself. And no one can respond to you on Tumblr - they make a post and write their comment, but there's a good chance you won't see it because there's no system to alert you when someone reblogs your post with a comment. You just have to go through the notes, and like I said if there are more than a few hundred (most of which are likes and naked reblogs with no commentary), then there's a solid chance that you won't see what someone else said to you because you can't find it. Whereas on LJ, it doesn't branch out into a hundred posts with that same secret, it's all comments and threads on that post, all right there on one spot. Comments are organized not just by when someone said something, but also who they said it to (again, on Tumblr, you cannot say anything directly to anyone except on private messages, which only you and the person you sent it to can see). If you are not actively watching that Tumblr post and tracking things while they happen, it's incredibly difficult to ever see it again. Which, if you have the time to sit at home all day or you have a smart phone that allows you to stay on Tumblr 24/7, is fine, but for the rest of us with a life, we will spend entire portions of our day or even entire days at a time not on Tumblr, which means once something happens it's over and there's no going back.
The only way you can use Tumblr and LJ the same is if you mostly didn't use LJ - you mostly just watched things, and either didn't comment or only ever commented to a general audience, without talking directly to people.
I mean, case in point - let's say what I said up there was a post on my blog. The only way you'd be able to say something about it is if you reblogged and made your own comment. Now, I might've seen it if you happened to comment within the right timespan when I had that post open on a tab on my Tumblr and I saw your reblog, but the only way to see notes is to actively look for them, which means if you blogged later than a few hours or a day after I posted it, I'll never see it because I will not be alerted. Even if I were, I might have to sift through hundreds of notes just to find it - and this is just if I posted it myself. If I reblogged someone else's post and then added my own commentary (aka responded to someone else's comment) and you wanted to respond specifically to something I said? Well, tough luck, because if I check back the notes on that post I'm not going to see just people who reblogged my post, I'll be seeing anyone whoever reblogged the original post via someone else's blog, all mixed up and drowned in likes and reblogs that have no comment in them. So most likely, if you responded to my comment, I would never have seen it, and that means I would never reply to it - which means, no dialogue.
Tumblr isn't a discussion site, it's a peanut gallery. Which is nice if you want to spread your art or fic around and just skim what people say about it without ever responding, but useless if you want to do anything beyond the most superficial level.
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On the dash it automatically shows if someone reblogs a post of yours/from you and adds commentary. There's no need to send links. I mean, I agree it works massively differently from LJ/DW and discussion is not its strength, but it is fully possible to have discussion without ever going to private messages (though, possible downside: effs up the note count so the post appears to be more popular than actually is. ...mostly a downside if you got into an interesting topic on a post which started with content you dislike).
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And I know Tumblr isn't meant for discussion. That's not my problem with the site. My problem is with the people who act like Tumblr is perfectly okay for discussion and then get all upset or turn into assholes when shit happens because it isn't. Tumblr is little more than an echo chamber, which is great for a few, few things, but terrible for just about anything else, and the entire set-up makes information control a total nightmare, which just intensifies a lot of the worst aspects of fandom.