[ SECRET POST #2272 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #2272 ⌋

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Comments

Re: Appropriation

[(Anonymous)]

nayrt

What about american rock music? Elvis etc becoming wildly popular singing and playing what was previously "black music", while failing to challenge all the cultural and economic barriers to black people making a similar living off of their music.

I know it's an old one, but if that's not appropriation I don't know what is.

Re: Appropriation

[(Anonymous)]

:| Not sure if serious.

Re: Appropriation

[(Anonymous)]

I thought this is what appropriation was. Feel free to tell me why I'm wrong, or link me to an explanation.
Seriously. I post anon so I can get my stupid opinions torn apart before I admit to them publicly. It's a good system.

Re: Appropriation

[yeahscience]

That is a kind of appropriation. I'm not sure why the anon reacted that way.

Re: Appropriation

[chardmonster]

That's called cowardice, actually.

Re: Appropriation

[(Anonymous)]

Yeah, okay. Personally, I think you could learn a couple of things from being anon a while, but what do I know? You don't even know me. :)

Or do you?

Re: Appropriation

[(Anonymous)]

ayrt

Maybe it is. We all have to start somewhere. It's not like I'm trolling.

Re: Appropriation

[charming_stranger]

No, actually, that's a very good use for the anonymous posting option. There's a difference between using anon posting as a testing ground for ideas you're not sure of, and may discard after the discussion, and using it as an invisibility cloak while trolling or spewing hate.

Re: Appropriation

[chardmonster]

I'd be with you on this if the OP post hadn't been phrased like a blatant troll.

I might be getting anons confused, though.

Re: Appropriation

[(Anonymous)]

No, I was the Fighting Irish OP post. Every anon after that was someone else.

And I wasn't going for trolling or think that the Fighting Irish have it bad, by the way. I just wanted to see how the original OP would separate the two.

Re: Appropriation

[charming_stranger]

Yeah, the principle probably can't be applied to the OP, or they need to work on not coming across as ignorant or trolls.

Re: Appropriation

[(Anonymous)]

I'm confused now because yeahscience said I wasn't precisely wrong, and I dont know why im considered troll-like. I'm not American, maybe I'm missing something

Re: Appropriation

[charming_stranger]

If you're the op, then you basically just said "appropriation doesn't exist, so shut up." No qualifiers, no explanations, just that. I don't really see how that can be anything but a) an attempt to tear people down or b) looking for a fight.

Re: Appropriation

[(Anonymous)]

This is the thread where I asked if the history of rock music would be considered an example of appropriation. I've always thought it existed?? I dont know how you (and possibly chard??) thought otherwise. Anon stops being useful as a way to put forth ideas free from preconceptions if people keep on trying to build narratives and personalities around them... not that I blame you, since ive done the same thing... confusion :(

Re: Appropriation

[charming_stranger]

But in that case, you're not the OP. The top post for this whole discussion is the one whose topic says "Appropriation." This one:
http://fandomsecrets.dreamwidth.org/777924.html?thread=640305092#cmt640305092

If several anonymous posters are involved in the same discussion, things can get confusing. Starting your post with "Anon you replied to" (AYRT), "Same anon" (SA), "Not the anon you replied to" (NAYRT) or "Different anon" DA can help a lot.

But when someone talks about "OP", they generally means the person who made the very first post and started the whole discussion.

Re: Appropriation

[(Anonymous)]

No, this is definitely something that people have talked about (and I don't mean sjw tumblrites). I don't know a whole lot about it, I'm no expert on music history, but this is definitely a thing and you're not nuts.

The way I understand appropriation in a non-sjw sense is that appropriation can actually take a cultural practice away/make it inaccessible to actual members of that culture, and that's what makes it harmful. I'm pretty sure there's discussion about that within music history. Although obviously, there really isn't and shouldn't be a way of stopping influences in art.