[ SECRET POST #2273 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #2273 ⌋

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Comments

Re: "Erotic resistance"

[(Anonymous)]

nayrt
While this is true, I feel that it should be pointed out that going to a party with a lot of strange men and getting blackout drunk is to rape as walking down a dark alley in a bad part of town waving fistfuls of expensive jewelery in the air is to being mugged. Yes, it's the mugger's fault that they mugged you, but you did make their "job" easier by your carelessness. Teaching women to have a defensive mindset, to fight back, and to be cautious around men is not a magic potion to end rape forever, but it can help them defend themselves.

Re: "Erotic resistance"

[(Anonymous)]

IMO, there isn't a problem with teaching tactics to hopefully prevent rape - the problem is putting the entire onus on the (female) victim rather than on the (male) rapist. (And furthermore, assuming all victims are women and women are the only people who need to be "taught" how to protect themselves ignores the existence of male victims and female rapists.)

The idea of it is fine, it's the execution. People who talk about what women should do to protect themselves generally come with the mindset that rapists are rapists and there's nothing anybody can do to change that, and they generally end up telling women these things after she's been raped, like it's all her fault and she should've known better, when even if she did, it's not helping her one damn bit now, and is likely just going to make her feel more guilty and more unwilling to come forward and report it.

Re: "Erotic resistance"

[(Anonymous)]

Moreover, it creates an (entirely inaccurate) expectation that, if a woman does all the "right" things, they'll be safe -- when the majority of rapes are committed by someone the woman knows and trusts. So not only does putting the onus of preventing rape on the woman make survivors who were attacked feel guilty for their own assault, but it makes rape victims whose rapes don't fit the "stranger in a dark alley" profile uncertain of whether what happened to them was "really" rape at all, and thus they end up feeling guilty as well and are less likely to report their assault.

Re: "Erotic resistance"

[(Anonymous)]

Yeah, but even if you accept this logic (which I don't), I've known people who were mugged when they were by themselves at night and literally not a single person responded with "BUT THAT MUGGER JUST COULDN'T RESIST MUGGING YOU. HOW WAS HE SUPPOSED TO STOP HIMSELF" because everyone knows that stealing is wrong. We are taught from childhood that stealing is wrong. When you see an unlocked car with the keys still in, you still know that taking it would be stealing. You won't find many people who disagree with this.

If you compare the unlocked car with a passed-out drunk girl at a party, suddenly there's DEBATE about why it's rape, and why it's wrong. That's why this argument is such a straw man.