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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2013-03-24 03:34 pm

[ SECRET POST #2273 ]


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dreemyweird: (Default)

Re: Fellow Libruls

[personal profile] dreemyweird 2013-03-24 09:28 pm (UTC)(link)
Sometimes it utterly dumbfounds me how people think that there's anything reasonable about these arguments. Ethics is so irrational it hurts. Why is it that one shouldn't kill a human being? Because. Why shouldn't one cheat on one's better half? Because. Why should one favour good over evil? Because reasons.

There's nothing logical in being pro-life or pro-choice. It is a matter of feeling, of preference.

Of course one can bring some societal reasons, such as "when abortion is prohibited, people start to turn to illegal abortion", but it is only right as long as you accept that women dying after illegal abortions is worse than legal abortions being performed. I do; besides, I hate the thought of a child being unwanted/having an unwanted child; therefore I'm happy that the laws of my country are in agreement with this view; but I hate pro-life vs. pro-choice discussions, because they're all based upon the concepts of good and evil, which are as subjective as one could wish.

Re: Fellow Libruls

(Anonymous) 2013-03-24 09:31 pm (UTC)(link)
http://plato.stanford.edu/entries/moral-realism/
dreemyweird: (Default)

Re: Fellow Libruls

[personal profile] dreemyweird 2013-03-24 09:39 pm (UTC)(link)
...looks like I'm neither. Sure, I don't think any moral claims are "true" (but that's only for one of the definitions of the word "true"); as to their purpose, however, I'd rather leave this to psychologists and linguists.

Re: Fellow Libruls

(Anonymous) 2013-03-24 09:39 pm (UTC)(link)
Your idea of moral relativism is wince-worthy and completely untrue (it's very, very, very contested and has been so for thousands of years), but IA wholeheartedly with your last paragraph, because that's about laws, not morality.
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Re: Fellow Libruls

[personal profile] dreemyweird 2013-03-24 09:45 pm (UTC)(link)
I am aware that the question is older than the silver fork of my grandpa, and I am familiar with the arguments. Still see no ultimate solid grounds for ethical claims.

Would be glad of some explanations as to why you think it "untrue"?