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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2013-03-24 03:34 pm

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Re: Fellow Libruls

(Anonymous) 2013-03-25 08:56 pm (UTC)(link)
i think the biggest problem in the abortion debate is that both of the main sides are arguing in favour of someone/something that the other is not. neither is the anti-position of the other. pro-life individuals are concentrating on the foetus, whereas pro-choice people focus on those carrying the foetus (or that have the potential to do so).

This is absolutely true. And it's exacerbated by the fact that the abortion debate is completely embroiled with all these other debates that actually have nothing to do with the central question re abortion (the central question surrounding abortion itself, in my mind, has to be: "What is the status of a fetus, what consideration is due to it, and what rights does it have?"). It's complicated because the abortion debate has become a constitutional question of central importance that determines a huge amount of American politics. It's become entangled with questions of religion and politics. And it's become entangled with a huge amount of culture-war stuff, a lot of cultural bullshit and cultural resentments and cultural identification marks, that, again, have nothing to do with someone's position on abortion as such but which have become as important to it.

and I think that's why people tend to view the issue in a reductive way - because, to a large extent, the abortion debate isn't about abortion anymore. At least not in terms of its emotional impact, of what makes people care about it. It's about those smug elitist big-city bastards who want to destroy our way of life and think we're idiots and don't respect us and how evil they are, or it's about those smug, repressive, idiotic small-town bastards who want to destroy our way of life and want us all to live the same way we did 100 years ago and how evil they are. So much of what goes on in the abortion debate is abstracted from abortion itself. And I think that's not a good thing (and I've said before on here that I think abortion is by far the issue that is most divisive and the most problematic in American politics).