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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2013-03-26 07:01 pm

[ SECRET POST #2275 ]


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(Anonymous) 2013-03-26 11:14 pm (UTC)(link)
Same. I'm reading a horrible YA series to make me feel better about my writing. (Although it's getting harder to stomach because what I was writing while I was reading the YA series has stalled.)

[personal profile] unicornherds 2013-03-26 11:24 pm (UTC)(link)
I actually think that's kind of clever. I, on the other hand, have no excuse for the many bad books (and fic) I read.

(Anonymous) 2013-03-26 11:28 pm (UTC)(link)
My problem with reading badly written books, is I end up editing them. You should see my sister's copy of "twilight" that she loaned me. I crossed out sentences, put notes in the margins, highlighted.... thing is still a train wreck.

So, now I actively avoid it, because my family says I have problems.
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[personal profile] caecilia 2013-03-26 11:28 pm (UTC)(link)
Just make sure you're studying them too. Even if they're bad, there is something that makes people want to read them. Learn what works and what doesn't and apply it to your own writing.

I mean, you probably know that already...
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[personal profile] deadtree 2013-03-26 11:48 pm (UTC)(link)
yeah, this is good advice. If you actually think about what makes those books publishable/appealing to an audience, it can help you out. And that's better than the people who read bad books just to confirm their idea that people are idiots lol

(Anonymous) 2013-03-26 11:36 pm (UTC)(link)
I would not subject myself to that to feel better about my writing.

(Anonymous) 2013-03-26 11:37 pm (UTC)(link)
Haha, I accidentally experienced this yesterday! I've been feeling very down about my writing recently, and I haven't been reading very much either. I picked up this YA book for some easy entertainment and I was just like ... this is actually pretty bad. I could do better.

And then I felt better about my writing! If it works, it works. :D

(Anonymous) 2013-03-26 11:41 pm (UTC)(link)
If "Twilight" can get published and become what it has, ANY aspiring writer on the face of this planet has a chance.

(Anonymous) 2013-03-26 11:50 pm (UTC)(link)
I feel the same way about Cassandra Clare and anything she writes. I thought authors were supposed to get better, but every time she writes a book it's worse. Or actually, it's exactly the same, but that's what makes it worse.
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[personal profile] aubry 2013-03-26 11:45 pm (UTC)(link)
I reckon this could backfire horribly in at least two ways - one, your own writing may actually suffer as a result of being too ensconced in poor dialogue and exposition, and two, the next time you read a good book the contrast may make you accutely aware of its good points in a way that actually makes good writing seem more difficult and daunting.

But whatever floats yer boat.

(Anonymous) 2013-03-27 12:07 am (UTC)(link)
Reading bad books is also a good way to break down how good fiction works, by seeing what goes wrong--and HOW it goes wrong--when it's done badly. Then you can turn back to your own work and figure out how to do it better.
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[personal profile] harp 2013-03-27 12:49 am (UTC)(link)
Just out of curiosity, what, in anyone's opinion, is a bad book? Examples of books you found bad or elements in books that make it bad. Just opinions, just for fun.

I'd say Twilight and it's Demonspawn 50 Shades and add another book I recently read ("The Duff") but no so much because the author was young and will likely get better with time and for the people who loved it, I can see why they did.
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[personal profile] silverau 2013-03-27 01:09 am (UTC)(link)
IMO, there is some value as a writer in reading bad literature, because it teaches you what not to do.

But I can totally see the value of using it as a self-esteem booster too.
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[personal profile] fromherbones 2013-03-27 02:01 am (UTC)(link)
I started out doing this, but then it backfired, because I'm pretty sure most shitty stuff gets published because someone knew someone, or just chance. So I could have an amazing novel, but there's still a very big chance it would never get published.

At least, that's what I've come to understand about the industry. Maybe I'm wrong. I could be wrong, right? ...right??

(Anonymous) 2013-03-27 03:21 am (UTC)(link)
Be careful with this. It could have a negative effect on your own writing.

(Anonymous) 2013-03-27 06:04 pm (UTC)(link)
Agreed. I used to see this all the time with some sporkers--I think maybe after constantly mocking easy targets, they became so self-satisfied that they didn't even realize it when they were writing crap. And you would not believe how angry they got when someone criticized their work--in one case, even when the crit came from an honest-to-God acquisitions editor. They claimed to be "amused," but I don't think they fooled anyone but their best friends.