[ SECRET POST #2275 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #2275 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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Comments

[childings.livejournal.com]

Eh, yes and no.

It depends on whether or not the person in question was really acting in accordance with the values and social mores of the society they lived in at the time. I also hear this argument all the time used to dismiss racists or bigots of the past few centuries when there were plenty of people living in the 18th and 19th centuries who disagreed with prevailing racist or bigoted attitudes and knew objectively that they were immoral.

There's also the fact that at lot of these historical figures were despised in their own time by their own people, so

[(Anonymous)]

Yes, sure. I'm thinking of someone in the 13th century because I happen to be obsessed with them at the moment, so the values and social mores were profoundly different. One could only judge most of the great barons as more or less brutal than each other, really, but it was a pretty damn brutal world for everyone, kings included.

[childings.livejournal.com]

Ah ok. Well yeah, you're right in that case. Who is it, BTW?

That's just something that pops up a lot in regards to American history in particular that always grates on my nerves.

[(Anonymous)]

Sir Roger Mortimer (the 1287 - 1330 one), so I'm doing a lot of reading on the 13th/14th c.