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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2013-03-31 03:11 pm

[ SECRET POST #2280 ]


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(Anonymous) 2013-03-31 08:08 pm (UTC)(link)
Joke's on you. Unless yo momma was ranting about WW3 being caused by Jews, Homersexuals and the Lizard People, she was probably not as prone to hysteria as you think. For people who grew up in the Cold War, WW3 was just ten minutes away. Seriously, every day you got up and first thing you did was make peace with the fact that today might be the day the missiles came down without warning. You cycled to school in the morning, and later drove off to work never knowing if you'd just seen your family for the last time. Even into the 1990s, though the Cold War was over there was still a good chance that it could reheat again with just a week's notice.
It took nearly til the millennium to realize that it was finally over. That's why we laugh in the face of people who call Muslim terrorists a world ending threat, babies you ain't seen no threat.

(Anonymous) 2013-03-31 08:26 pm (UTC)(link)
Not to defend doomsayers, but there was never any actual combat in the Cold War. Muslim terrorists seem like a bigger threat because they have actually attacked the United States and parts of Europe, and caused the US and its allies to go to war. Laugh at people who think they're a world ending threat if you want, but not because the Cold War was a bigger threat. It clearly wasn't.

(Anonymous) 2013-03-31 08:34 pm (UTC)(link)
nayrt but two points here.

First, there was actual combat in the Cold War, there was just never actual combat between the USSR and the USA. But there was plenty of violent conflict as part of a Cold War, and it did lead both superpowers to go to war. Just not with each other.

Second, the threat from the Cold War was in fact a bigger threat than Islamic extremism. Because the Soviet Union and the USA both had nuclear arsenals large enough to effectively wipe out the population of both countries. It never happened, but it could have done. Terrorism has actually affected people, true, but the scale of the threat is so much lower - it's not an existential threat in the same way. Even if it didn't actually happen, I don't see how you can deny that the potential of mass extinction existed and affected people's thoughts.

(Anonymous) 2013-04-01 02:11 am (UTC)(link)
+ 1 to all of this.

[personal profile] sugar_spun 2013-03-31 10:28 pm (UTC)(link)
The Cold War was most definitely the bigger threat. If one country had the power to totally obliterate the other country with a button and both were threatening to use it, it was a bigger threat.

Read about Stanislov Petrov to understand exactly how close it was.
Edited 2013-03-31 22:29 (UTC)

(Anonymous) 2013-03-31 11:22 pm (UTC)(link)
The fact that there was no direct combat between the US and the USSR and the fact that MAD actually stayed some hands doesn't mean that the Cold War wasn't a bigger threat. Muslim terrorists don't have the ability to annihilate nations and plunge the entire world into nuclear winter; the US and the USSR did (and still do, technically speaking, although now it's obviously Russia rather than the USSR).

You're not offending doomsayers. You're offending people who know what a nuclear arsenal can do, and making yourself look like an idiot.

(Anonymous) 2013-04-01 12:32 am (UTC)(link)
Technically there was a lot of actual combat during the Cold War, just not directly between the US and USSR but through proxy's. Most of the conflicts between any two countries at that time were goaded on by the both of them, US and USSR each picking a side to supply with arms, advise, ideology, ect. Korea, Vietnam, Afganistan, basically anywhere there was a fight to prevent/install communism or democracy or a native leader who had ties to one or the other.

[personal profile] cbrachyrhynchos 2013-04-01 04:30 am (UTC)(link)
Korea, Vietnam, Cambodia, Nicaragua, Panama, Afghanistan, El Salvador, Chile, and Granada would disagree with this.

(Anonymous) 2013-03-31 08:33 pm (UTC)(link)
Um, living in paranoia and more importantly, programming your kids to think that way isn't healthy.
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[personal profile] dethtoll 2013-03-31 08:44 pm (UTC)(link)
lol wow
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[personal profile] akacat 2013-03-31 10:45 pm (UTC)(link)
Yeah, I had my first WWIII nightmare when I was about three -- that was back in the 60s. And I actually missed the major paranoia by several years. Or maybe people were just more realistic? Either way, backyard bomb shelters and the school duck & cover drills weren't a thing anymore.

Even so, the idea that the world could end today was always in the back of my mind at least through the 80s.

Have you ever heard the story of the young Russian soldier whose decision prevented war? It's kind of interesting:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stanislav_Petrov