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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2013-04-01 06:48 pm

[ SECRET POST #2281 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2281 ⌋

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[The Lorax (2012)]


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[Randy Cunningham: 9th Grade Ninja]


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[My Mad Fat Diary]


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[Sakura Taisen/Wars]


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[Life in the Dreamhouse]


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[Gail Carriger]


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[Escape My Life!]


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[Harry Potter]


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[personal profile] illiadandoddity 2013-04-01 11:16 pm (UTC)(link)
I never got the appeal of Harry/Draco at all. Draco is a seriously unlikable little shit from the first moment we met him, and no, the sixth book didn't make him any more likeable.
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[personal profile] morieris 2013-04-01 11:23 pm (UTC)(link)
I am the same way. Nothing endeared him to me, and that's because he's characterized so wonderfully as a little douchecanoe.
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[personal profile] illiadandoddity 2013-04-01 11:26 pm (UTC)(link)
I couldn't understand why the fandom seemed to love him so damn much, and constant woobify him, to the point where the trope is named after him. Draco In Leather Pants.

Seriously, can anybody explain what the appeal of his character was? Anybody? Bueller?
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[personal profile] quantumreality 2013-04-01 11:27 pm (UTC)(link)
I suspect it's a combination of the squee over Tom Felton (esp post GOF movie) as well as the idea that maybe Draco could be reformed somehow. This was an open possibility, particularly pre-HBP.
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[personal profile] morieris 2013-04-01 11:32 pm (UTC)(link)
He was rich

He was in Slytherin (OOOH, the "Bad" house! In the words of someone else, no one is more woobiefied than House Slytherin - hell, Pottermore even put me in there [& I'm happy about it], and I admit that it has a bad past in place, not just totally ostracized)

He had somewhat different features (Platinum blond hair, grey eyes). I've spent so much time laughing at the 'emo' and 'goth' sues who end up as his sister or best friend or whatever, but they're not harming anyone.

(Anonymous) 2013-04-02 12:08 am (UTC)(link)
Draco fan here. Funnily enough I never liked woobifying Draco, it was too ooc for me but I was totally fine with canon him. Like, I know plainly that he was the wizard equivalent of racist among other things, but I could never make that connection while reading or enjoying fandom. Like, mudblood to me is closer to him making fun of Ron's income than say 'n*'. I think there was also a little enemy of my enemy at play because from day one I never really warmed to the trio. So when he'd get in their way or insult them or whatever I didn't feel all that bad.

tldr: I guess what JK was trying to portray with him didn't work on me so I came away seeing a magnificent bastard instead of a shit heel. Tom Felton didn't help.

(Anonymous) 2013-04-02 01:35 am (UTC)(link)
I'm honestly curious here, I understand him coming off as more sympathetic and a more likable character if you didn't feel that he was racist, but why did he come off as magnificent bastard to you? It's been a while since I read the books, but I don't remember him doing anything particularly... magnificent bastard-ly. He was mostly either fighting with Harry or being buffeted around by the Deatheaters in my recollection?

(Anonymous) 2013-04-02 03:28 am (UTC)(link)
He had a few moments I think, hell if I can remember them now. There is the pulling one over the Order with the RoomofReq/Polyjuice thing but tbh, he doesn't really, you are right. MB wasn't quite the right trope to use, sorry. I don't know which one to go with instead and I refuse to be sucked into TvTropes today. I chose it because when I think of Draco the image of him that materialises, that is what I'd call it and he's sort of in company of actual MBs that I've liked. Hmm. It's that smirky, sarcastic, insult-you-while-I-mess-up-your-plans quality that MB possess that made me call him that.
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[personal profile] charming_stranger 2013-04-02 11:29 am (UTC)(link)
Smug snake?

(Anonymous) 2013-04-02 04:40 am (UTC)(link)
I can't speak for everyone but for me, personally, it's the possibilities of his character. Sure he's an arrogant little shit, but he's capable of changing and redeeming himself, as was glimpsed in canon, and that tiny little glimpse JKR showed us is kind of mindblowing because, like I said, possibilities. And anyway, who doesn't love the whole rivals/enemies to know one another and eventually falling in love trope? Because I really, really do.

What'a also awesome about Draco is that he's so shamelessly horrid. He's a little prick and he just doesn't care, which makes a relationship with Harry, who tries so hard to be "good", really attractive.

Honestly, he doesn't have many attributes aside from his obvious love for his family and cleverness. He isn't a nice character-- and fics that portray him as such truly give me the shivers-- but I like him that way. Well, to an extent, of course.

Mostly, I think, it's just that I like the idea of him with Harry. Which is probably why I rarely ship him with anyone but (whereas I ship Harry with just about anyone in the series =p)

(Anonymous) 2013-04-02 08:44 am (UTC)(link)
it's the contrast for me. they boy who lived and the son of a death eater, it's all kinds of epic. and as for draco himself, well.. he was a spoiled brat scorned, so of course he was a little shit! XD

but you know, most people grow up eventually. and that growing up & realizing the world doesn't quite work out as he was raised to believe was what i liked to read about.
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[personal profile] quantumreality 2013-04-01 11:27 pm (UTC)(link)
Yeah, Canon Draco is such a racist little shit it takes a fair bit of work to make a H/D ship work believably, and it's why I seem to have ended up liking comparatively few HP/DM fics in the end. I basically read Vorabiza's and that's about it heh. There used to be this prolific Australian author named Lani who had a metric butt-ton of H/D fics but they all vanished.

Um, my thoughts on yaoi, let me show you them.

(Anonymous) 2013-04-01 11:26 pm (UTC)(link)
This describes my feelings as well. The sixth book humanizes Draco somewhat, but it doesn't make him likable.
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[personal profile] world_eater 2013-04-01 11:32 pm (UTC)(link)
I was a fan (bad boy rawr, etc. etc.) before the movies came out. Only then did I realise that Draco was a little shit, not the cool kind of villain. I'm still amazed because Tom Felton was such a cutey and he still managed to kill my fanboner with his acting. Props to him.
Edited 2013-04-01 23:33 (UTC)
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[personal profile] quantumreality 2013-04-01 11:38 pm (UTC)(link)
I think the part that really managed to "sell" Draco was when he snottily said "My father and I have a bet, you see (...) you won't last five!" in GOF.
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[personal profile] iggy 2013-04-02 12:36 am (UTC)(link)
Because no one is shipping canon Draco lol. Fandom views him as either a legitimate badass or an innocent victim, of which he is neither. At all. He's not really a 'cool bad boy'. He's just kind of a pathetic loser who is also massively racist.
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(Anonymous) 2013-04-02 01:32 am (UTC)(link)
That's why it takes a talented writer to make something good out of that crappy character. It's called 'character development', and while I'm only a casual Harry/Draco shipper and will agree in a New York minute that most of the fic for them is wish-fulfillment or base tripe (not that I don't enjoy that wish-fulfillment stuff now and then) -- there are some good ones that are really fabulous with taking Draco from being a little snot and leading him to grow for one reason or another.

Then there are the AUs and the "character X dreams about what might have been" fics.

You can like the idea of a character and not necessarily the character you're given and develop them out into something people can care about without making them tragically OOC. You just have to be a half-decent writer.

(Anonymous) 2013-04-02 02:10 am (UTC)(link)
Ugh, I just don't get it.

I didn't mind Ron/Draco, though.
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[personal profile] cakemage 2013-04-02 03:14 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah, I like a good villain as much anyone, but the problem with Draco is that he just really sucks at it. Yeah, he's a jerkwad, but not the cool, intentionally funny kind. He's just slimy and kind of pathetic. He's a spoiled coward, he relies on his daddy and/or minions for almost everything, and while he talks a big game, his follow-through is less than impressive. However, I do see how those traits can be endearing in an "Aw, look at you trying so hard to be evil, you silly little failure-puppy" kind of way. I'm just not entirely sure where the idea of him being this devastatingly snarky badass woobie who bartends in the dark came from.