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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2013-04-01 06:48 pm

[ SECRET POST #2281 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2281 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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[David Suchet]


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[The Lorax (2012)]


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[Randy Cunningham: 9th Grade Ninja]


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[My Mad Fat Diary]


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[Sakura Taisen/Wars]


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07.
[Life in the Dreamhouse]


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[Grimm]


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[Chrono Crusade]


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[Gail Carriger]


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[Psycho-Pass]


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[Homeland]


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13.
[Escape My Life!]


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[Harry Potter]


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[Persona 4]


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[Twisted]


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Notes:

Secrets Left to Post: 03 pages, 063 secrets from Secret Submission Post #326.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 0 - broken links ], [ 1 - not!secrets ], [ 0 - not!fandom ], [ 0 - too big ], [ 0 - repeat ].
Current Secret Submissions Post: here.
Suggestions, comments, and concerns should go here.
illiadandoddity: (Default)

[personal profile] illiadandoddity 2013-04-01 11:23 pm (UTC)(link)
I think Toy Story Ken worked well given the role he had in the story - part of the bad guy's inner circle. Making him a bit self-hating and in denial about being basically one of Barbie's accessories fits that role.

A thoroughly nice and perfect Ken wouldn't have worked at all for a villainous character, even one who eventually turned on the big bad and became a good guy.
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[personal profile] forgottenjester 2013-04-01 11:44 pm (UTC)(link)
Yeah, I have to agree with you. Each Ken's nature fits the role they're supposed to fill in each work.

(Anonymous) 2013-04-02 12:05 am (UTC)(link)
And I guess the entire "feminine men are pathetic" thing was part of making him a bad guy then?
I thought it was stupid of Pixar to showcase how it should be shameful for "manly" men to be compared to women. They could have made him an antagonist without insulting all the little girls in the audience.

(Anonymous) 2013-04-02 12:10 am (UTC)(link)
I didn't see him as pathetic because he was 'feminine', I saw him as pathetic because he was so frivolous. Why is frivolity strictly a female thing?

(could this go on all day and night? It could, you know, and it just might!)

(Anonymous) 2013-04-02 12:11 am (UTC)(link)
I guarantee you that no little girl in the audience was thinking "I'm insulted that they're making fun of Ken for liking feminine things!" It's only oversensitive college-aged feminists who do that.

(Anonymous) 2013-04-02 08:42 am (UTC)(link)
DA

No, of course no little girl thinks that actively. They just absorb the notion that typically feminine things are fine for girls but stupid for boys to do. You don't need to be oversensitive to figure out where the "you are a pussy", "grow some balls" and "you cry like a woman" insults stem from.
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[personal profile] mekkio 2013-04-02 12:36 am (UTC)(link)
You've got it wrong. The only reason why he was saying, "I am not a girl's toy" was because the other bad guys were giving him grief. The moment the bad guys were gone and he paired up with Barbie, he happily embraced who he was because everyone else allowed him to be who he was deep down. He had been hiding it the whole time. Which is why he told Barbie that no one in the daycare appreciated clothing. He wanted to find people who were like him. But no one wants to be made fun of who they are.

(Anonymous) 2013-04-02 08:45 am (UTC)(link)
And why exactly is "you're a girls toy" an insult? Why do those male characters think badly of girl toys? That's the question and we all know the answer ;)
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[personal profile] mekkio 2013-04-02 12:15 pm (UTC)(link)
Because, like I said, the bad guys made it an insult. After they were gone, it because an insult no more.
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[personal profile] b_dangerous 2013-04-06 08:06 am (UTC)(link)
I agree with this so much. Toy Story 3 Ken worked so well since he was completely insecure with himself. The different environment and themes of the film worked for what he was dealing with.