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⌈ Secret Post #2284 ⌋

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Comments

Re: Mancester Police now consider attacks on Goths etc Hate Crimes

[(Anonymous)]

I mean, two people were violently assaulted and one of them was killed, by a group of people who targeted them because they were dressed in a way that demonstrated their membership in a particular subculture. Regardless of whether their belonging to a specific group is innate or immutable, it's no reason for them to be attacked or murdered, and it does serve the purpose of threatening or intimidating the group as a whole. I don't see what's so absurd, "lol goths" aside.

Re: Mancester Police now consider attacks on Goths etc Hate Crimes

[childings.livejournal.com]

Ok so what if there was violence against Masons or people who knit or bicyclists or any other number of groups of people, would those also be hate crimes

Re: Mancester Police now consider attacks on Goths etc Hate Crimes

[(Anonymous)]

From my reply to you below:

For me, the defining factors of a hate crime are (1) that it targets people based on membership in a group that forms a significant component of their identity, whether innate or chosen, and (2) that it targets them specifically and solely because of that identity characteristic, in a way that implicitly threatens and intimidates all members of that group.

There's a difference between a hobby and a subculture/lifestyle. The reason we punish hate crimes more harshly than the equivalent "normal" crime is that hate crimes terrorize an entire community in addition to the physical harm they inflict upon the victim. I think explicit anti-subculture violence fits that description.