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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2013-04-05 06:34 pm

[ SECRET POST #2285 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2285 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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[Kirk Cameron]


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14. [WARNING for rape]



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helenadax: (spartacus)

[personal profile] helenadax 2013-04-05 11:07 pm (UTC)(link)
It was revenge because she -his domina- had raped him several times, tried to murder him and also beaten his girlfriend and sent her away to be raped too.


(Anonymous) 2013-04-05 11:10 pm (UTC)(link)
So he killed an innocent baby in other words. Good to know.

(Anonymous) 2013-04-05 11:16 pm (UTC)(link)
A fetus, actually, but essentially. :)

(Anonymous) 2013-04-05 11:18 pm (UTC)(link)
NA

I find my own reaction to this fascinating, because revenge-killing a pregnant person does smack of collateral damage, but I believe fervently that one should be able to terminate a pregnancy at any time, dammit. Hmm, what is my train of thought?

(Anonymous) 2013-04-05 11:21 pm (UTC)(link)
Well, I figure it as: that's a fetus the mother chose to carry till it became a baby. Without the interference of the murderer, it would've been born and been a person.

(Anonymous) 2013-04-07 01:12 am (UTC)(link)
lol.
rivia: (Default)

[personal profile] rivia 2013-04-05 11:28 pm (UTC)(link)
just adding that the pregnant woman doesn't die, just the fetus. he purposely went after the baby i think, since it was a stab in the stomach, not beheading or something else.

unless that isn't what you meant, idk.

(Anonymous) 2013-04-05 11:36 pm (UTC)(link)
The stab was also supposed to kill her, and was assumed to have killed her until she showed back up in season 2. I think Crixus was just trying to kill her a way that was deliberately cruel (considering how desperately she wanted a kid) but it was definitely intended to kill her.
rivia: (Default)

[personal profile] rivia 2013-04-05 11:39 pm (UTC)(link)
Well.. yeah. But the person I was replying to sounded like they thought that killing the fetus was just "collateral damage" and I always read that scene like Crixus intended to kill the fetus. It was definitely cruel, but (it's been a while since I've watched s1 so bear with me) I got the vibe that he didn't want a child of his raised as a Roman, and that tied into it.
visp: (Default)

[personal profile] visp 2013-04-06 05:56 am (UTC)(link)
And, it's a rape-baby. I mean, that's probably factoring into things.

(Anonymous) 2013-04-06 07:19 am (UTC)(link)
well an outside force destroying a fetus against the woman's will removes her choice in the matter. it makes perfect sense to me that as someone who values bodily autonomy and a woman's right to maintain or end a pregnancy, you would be upset by the fact that that choice was taken away from her-- whether that means by forced pregnancy or forced abortion.
helenadax: (spartacus)

[personal profile] helenadax 2013-04-05 11:34 pm (UTC)(link)
He wanted to kill her after everything she had done to him. The fact that she was pregnant wasn't going to change that.

Lucretia was my favourite female character, I loved her and Batiatus, all their scenes were gold. But when it comes to Lucretia and Crixus no way you're going to make me believe that he was the bad guy here.
elaminator: (Spartacus: Agron/Nasir)

[personal profile] elaminator 2013-04-05 11:45 pm (UTC)(link)
Agreed.

(Anonymous) 2013-04-06 06:48 pm (UTC)(link)
This so much. I loved Lucretia but she wasn't exactly innocent.

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(Anonymous) 2013-04-06 02:47 am (UTC)(link)
Well, if it balances some idiotic scale for you, Lucretia later on cuts a baby out of his/her mother's womb and dives over a cliff with the baby while the mother crawls after her, begging her not to.

Does that make it okay for you now?

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(Anonymous) 2013-04-06 03:04 am (UTC)(link)
No because she was driven insane by what Crixus did to her. That just makes what Crixus did worse because Crixus wasn't insane.

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(Anonymous) 2013-04-06 03:13 am (UTC)(link)
So Crixus wasn't driven a little bit to the edge by Lucretia's previous actions? Are you one of those people that think female-on-male rape isn't a thing?

'Poor' Lucretia would have gutted him if given half a chance. As far as I'm concerned, his action was justified. She took from him, he took it back. The scales balanced.

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(Anonymous) 2013-04-06 03:29 am (UTC)(link)
She was legit insane by the end. There's a huge difference.

And stabbing a pregnant woman is not justified regardless of who she is unless it's self-defense.

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(Anonymous) 2013-04-06 04:03 am (UTC)(link)
That's nice that it's so black and white for you. Unfortunately, that's not the world Crixus and Lucretia lived in. And you still won't acknowledge that she repeatedly raped him and that it might have had something to do with what he did. Why not? She raped him, she forced him to impregnate her whether he wanted it or not. He was her VICTIM. If their gender roles were reversed there'd be no question that it was justified. Her being pregnant didn't give her a special pass, all it did was make what she did to him MORE real.

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(Anonymous) 2013-04-06 04:30 am (UTC)(link)
THANK YOU jesus fuck people is that so hard to understand

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(Anonymous) 2013-04-06 03:56 pm (UTC)(link)
The baby was also a VICTIM