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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2013-04-06 03:38 pm

[ SECRET POST #2286 ]


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(Anonymous) 2013-04-06 08:15 pm (UTC)(link)
On the other hand, it is an opportunity to see a picture of Grace Jones being a proper hot fox <3

I can see that some people would describe her as androgynous, and hence why the OP chose her image.


Unless you had a different reason for not liking her use...?
ext_81845: amuro ray from mobile suit gundam, in his underwear, from the doan's island episode (WTF?!)

[identity profile] childings.livejournal.com 2013-04-06 08:41 pm (UTC)(link)
She wears suits and stuff yeah, but always low-cut stuff that shows off cleavage and whatnot, she still presents herself as being feminine (I would say "womanly") to a large extent. Not anywhere near being androgynous IMO

(Anonymous) 2013-04-06 08:58 pm (UTC)(link)
ayrt

I agree. I just can see how the suit/hair combo, plus her height, causes some people to automatically think 'androgynous' and therefore choose her as an example of that though. It's a bit like people thinking that her and Dolph Lundgren were both gay and presented themselves as having a relationship with each other to disguise it: her appearance short-cuts to 'lesbian' for some people too.

Of course, it's nonsense, but some people have particular ideas (often through fashion and media) that certain words or looks denote something that they actually don't.
ext_81845: kai shiden w/ an awkward expression, from the manga gundam: the origin (awkward)

[identity profile] childings.livejournal.com 2013-04-06 09:44 pm (UTC)(link)
Dolph Lundgren x Grace Jones = unf to me

(Anonymous) 2013-04-07 01:35 am (UTC)(link)
I love you. That is all.

(Anonymous) 2013-04-06 09:33 pm (UTC)(link)
Really? She didn't use to but I haven't seen or heard anything about her in over 20 years. In the 80s she used to present as a man and even said as much in an interview on GMA or some show like that. She said she was uncomfortable wearing women's clothes or anything feminine. It's strange to me that she'd trade out men's dress shirts and ties for a low cut blouse under her suits.
ext_81845: screencap of dusty attenborough with a thoughtful expression, also STUBBLE, from legend of the galactic heroes (think it over)

[identity profile] childings.livejournal.com 2013-04-06 09:44 pm (UTC)(link)
I mean, there's an album cover where's she's wearing a men's suit jacket with nothing underneath, she's not doing anything to hide her breasts and to me that doesn't seem androgynous at all.

Sometimes presenting as a man =/= androgynous, and lots of people who present as female or who are female don't feel comfortable in women's clothing

We're also forgetting the fact that it was very en vogue for women to wear menswear in the eighties

(And yeah I haven't seen what she looks like lately or really heard anything about her recently)

(Anonymous) 2013-04-06 09:57 pm (UTC)(link)
She appeared in the Queen's diamond jubilee concert last year, and was truly bizarre. She looked very odd and the performance wasn't up to much.
ext_81845: amuro ray from mobile suit gundam, in his underwear, from the doan's island episode (WTF?!)

[identity profile] childings.livejournal.com 2013-04-06 10:23 pm (UTC)(link)
Oh, well that kind of sucks. Still, it's hard to expect someone to be at the top of their game for their entire life

I still feel like she's underappreciated, she was doing the Lady Gaga thing a full decade or more before Gaga did it