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I've been wondering this for some time. It seems that belonging to the sci-fi/supernatural genres is one of the biggest factors in whether or not a work has a big fandom, but what about outside of that? It's not viewership -- the most highly-rated shows and some of the highest-grossing movies don't have fandoms at all. So what is it, do you think?

-The universe, and the extent to which it allows for further exploration, or leaves issues open.
-A host of characters who aren't entirely one note, but have a clear archetype.
-Need at least one protagonist to allow the audience to project onto.
-Not lowest common denominator but simple enough to reach a wide audience (being popular doesn't guarantee a fanbase but outside cult hits you very rarely see large fandoms for unpopular shows).
-New material being released, or likely to come out in the foreseeable future.

Attractive people
Especially snarky attractive white male characters who are not in a committed relationship by the end of the movie or during the show

So true.

I think they have to have subtext with other white men before it becomes properly popular too.

Not really. I know plenty of big fandoms that don't have slash pairings or only have minor incidental slash pairings or only developed slash pairings later after they had already acquired a big fandom without any slash component.

So no.

Oh really? What fandoms?

Although now that I think about it, I think the original assertion of cute white dudes is a pretty big generalisation. I know a couple of fandoms (anime fandoms, to begin with) that don't.

What was the "subtext" between Arthur and Eames in Inception?

The 5-10 minutes of screen time they share have a delicious adversarial tension? ships have sailed on less!

Eames called Arthur "darling," and they keep making reference to having met before. The end.

- Popular creators (Lauren Faust Joss Whedon)
- Aimed towards a younger generation

Exposure
Hype
Attractive characters
Marketing
Crazy fans

I heard this great phrase once, that the best fandoms are inspired by "canons you can drive a truck through".
That was in reference to Glee (because continuity?? characterization??? it doesn't make sense! we need to make it make sense!) but can obviously be applied to Harry Potter or Supernatural.
Something that initially gets you excited, and then lets you down with unsatisfying world or character development (you can say hot guys... but I don't think those fandoms last).

I think that's overly specific, but IA with the general idea. I think it's more "canons that deliver on <20% of the potential it initially sets up". Which could be simply a function of the particular story being told in that book/show/whatever, so not necessarily a letdown, or it could be what you said.

For example, Star Wars. Tells one story of a potential 284,384,096 other stories that could be done in that universe with those characters using any fraction of what happens in canon -- from nothing but setting to setting and backstory only to one movie to two movies to three movies -- to fuel your discussion/merchandise/pop-cultural osmosis/memes/costumes/art/fanfic/etc.

You're totally right!! It's not about "letting us down" so much as just leaving us hanging. "Us" often being people who get more excited about worldbuilding and relationships than can feasibly be satisfied by a single movie, book, or tv show produced for mass consumption.
I just stared at that sentence for a full minute, I hope it makes sense :\

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