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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2013-04-08 06:54 pm

[ SECRET POST #2288 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2288 ⌋

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(Anonymous) 2013-04-08 11:25 pm (UTC)(link)
I hate it when they turn Stiles into this suffering woobie who just needs a little love.

I think he does feel abandoned at times, and I think he internalizes a hell of a lot more shit then he lets out (the Wolf's Bane hallucination anyone?)

But it's also really important to point out that Stiles's solution to three different problems (Derek, Jackson, and Matt) were to kill them/let them be killed. Scott is actually the one who's all about saving people--which is why Scott is the hero of the show, and Stiles isn't.

I can't remember what fic it was, but it was talking about wolf mates, and how human mates could be more dangerous than wolf ones in how they would defend their mate/their pack. And that's kind of how Stiles works--kid has a hell of a lot of darkness underneath his awkward flails and dorky clothes. And I love that.

And that's not even getting into how I hate how fandom sometimes portrays Derek, or Sterek itself. Slow burn, people, otherwise the ship doesn't work.

(Anonymous) 2013-04-08 11:31 pm (UTC)(link)
I admit i kinda love that trope sometimes. :D BUT its sad how frequent it is in fic, as it doesn't really fit his characterization. I wish there were more in character fics though for both Stiles & Derek

But its one thing to want something in fic and think its going to happen in canon.

(Anonymous) 2013-04-08 11:35 pm (UTC)(link)
Honestly, if it happens in the show I want it to be right in the last episode, so the show doesn't have time to screw it up. Just enough for it to be canon, not enough for it to ruin my head-canons. (And honestly, doing it in the next season would be OOC unless they move characters waaaay to fast).

(Anonymous) 2013-04-08 11:38 pm (UTC)(link)
Yeah i think so, but at the same time that feels like a cop out. I look forward to the day where a non-canon same-sex relationship actually becomes canon just like the million het relationships we get.

I know its a stupid reason to want a ship to happen, but it would be NICE if one show would go out and do it. Yeah, I know we have Danny, but he's still not a main character yet and was firmly established as gay at the begining. I'd like a little non hetero-normality too.

But those reasons are still kinda stupid to want a ship, so i'd rather it just made SENSE.
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[personal profile] forgottenjester 2013-04-09 12:23 am (UTC)(link)
I don't think fandom, most fandoms at least, know what slow burn is.

(Anonymous) 2013-04-09 01:59 am (UTC)(link)
I agree with this but I also do not think that talking about killing people makes Stiles have a dark side.

His father is a cop, a man who has to use a weapon and occasionally kill people to save other people for the greater good. It doesn't make his dad have a dark side.

I think Stiles is a lot more mature than Scott. You can't save everyone, and when Stiles is 'suggesting' to kill people - it is usually sarcasm or to keep people safe.

It might make him slightly morally grey, but I would argue it doesn't make him as dark as some people think he is.

(Anonymous) 2013-04-09 04:58 am (UTC)(link)
DARK!STILES IS COMING

(Anonymous) 2013-04-09 08:12 am (UTC)(link)
I remember one fic that said something along the lines of "what peter and stiles shared in common was not regretting anyone they had killed." I can't remember how they handwaved Laura away but yeah, I prefer a stiles who is prepared to do anything for his group, not fall about sobbing and wondering "what does he mean when he says he loves me!!"