[ SECRET POST #2291 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #2291 ⌋

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Comments

[(Anonymous)]

And deservedly so. It is fucking appalling that they try to clamber on the LGBT rights wagon and make it harder for the LBGT folks to get recognition due to the OtherFurry antics. I'd burn them in their own fursuits.

[(Anonymous)]

THIS.

"You can accept that a person who looks like a man is really a woman, so why can't you accept that I'm really a winged unicorn wolf trapped in a human's body??"

[(Anonymous)]

I seriously doubt Otherkin are hurting LGBT rights. It's not a well known thing, not like LGBT. I don't see people standing outside of Congress supporting Otherkin rights. I'm a geek well versed in the ways of the Internet and I only just heard about Otherkin and their beliefs a year ago (knew about Furries and fursuits long before that but I didn't know about the niche known as Otherkin); it's not street knowledge.

[(Anonymous)]

Because being an Otherkin isn't a fucking right.

[(Anonymous)]

That's my point. So how is it hurting LGBT rights? This thread is the first time I've ever seen the two related to one another.

[visp]

It's... kinda insulting. Gay people get enough "well if you let gays marry, what about incest and turtle fucking?" in real life, without getting "my struggle to be seen as a unicorn online is just like your daily struggle with not getting beaten to death in an alley because of your sexual preference.

[(Anonymous)]

But my question is is this actually happening? I know a few people very against gay marriage (all parents of friends, close-minded assholes) and they never say 'Gay people can't get married, because it would encourage those Otherkin'. They don't even know it's around because it's not a well known thing.

I agree that considering yourself to be Otherkin is not on par to being LGBT and fighting for your right to marry the one you love regardless of gender (for me, Otherkin is more like a religious faith than anything else) but I want to know if Otherkin is actively hurting the progress of LGBT rights, like some people are suggesting.

[visp]

I wouldn't say "hurting the progress" but I would say "insulting."

[(Anonymous)]

Yes, because those motherfucking bonzo crazy right wing religious anti-gay marriage preachers and transphobes like to bring up the whole "well there are folks who want to marry their dog or dress like cats saying they should be able to do that, you allow this[Gay Marriage/TS children being allowed to transition in schools] and it is them next". And people go on google and find otherkin fuckheads claiming they are a fairy werewolf trapped in a human body, then that lends credence to the nutso crazy on FOX or local talk radio. When the crazy gets the Anti Gay Marriage or Deny Transsexual Transition onto the ballot, it is in their minds.

It might not be a huge effect, just a trickle and tickle at the back of the mind of the sane. Just a "well, I know they sound crazy, but a grain of truth y'all" effect. That adds up, it might just be a pebble on the mountain of boulders, but it is still yet another fucking stone that LGBT folk have to deal with. So knock it off.

[(Anonymous)]

To which I would say to that right winged person 'As long as it is between consenting adults, why the hell should you care? Of course we're not going to let that adult marry that dog because the dog can't consent to it but why does it bother you if they want to dress up or play around in the bed room?'

And I still think it's unfair to blame Otherkin when there are people out there with stranger fetishes. Watersports, anyone? That's a real thing, people getting off on bodily functions. It's not my kink, personally I don't get it, but I'm not going to put down people who are into it. Likewise, if there are people out there who get a little extra pleasure in having sex while wearing fursuits, how is it hurting you?

Basically, you can't stop the right-winged nut jobs from their way of thinking. Hell, I know they've tied gay marriage to pedophilia, which I'm sure is one fetish/kink/whathaveyou that we can all agree is not okay.

I have a friend who believes in reincarnation and says that she has reoccurring dreams of her past lives with such detail that she can spin whole tales about them. My belief doesn't match hers but that doesn't give me the right to call her mentally-ill just for having a different set of beliefs (which is how I think of Otherkin, a belief system more than just a bedroom kink).

Basically, back off. Let Otherkin be happy with who they are. Right-winged morons will be moronic for their own reasons and will reach for the furthest idea they think will help them. I especially enjoy their protest to protect the ideal family of a unified mother and father when my own family is divorced, I was raised by mother father and step parents, and I came out just fine.

[(Anonymous)]

It hurts gay and transgender people because whenever there is a debate on Gay and Transgender rights, thanks to the OtherKin idiots, some smart ass will always bring up the Otherkin as part of their argument as to why LGBT people are just delusional. It's another myth that LGBT people have to bust before getting to the serious issues. Otherkin who claim to be magical animals in human form, especially militant Otherkin who demand the right to wear furry regalia to work, allows bigots to easily dismiss LGBT people's arguments for recognition.

[(Anonymous)]

Holy fucking shit, this comment so much.

[(Anonymous)]

Okay, seriously, I'm not otherkin, but my boyfriend is, and as a result I've read a lot of the #otherkin tag on tumblr, which one would expect to be a cesspit of that kind of behaviour, and the only time I've seen anyone equating 'kin to being transgendered has been in posts written by admitted trolls or as a strawman. Most of the 'kin I know are lovely, socially-aware people who are definitely conscious of their privilege.

I'm not saying it doesn't happen. I'm just curious, because this secret is the closest I've come to first-hand knowledge of this kind of behaviour. Is it just not on tumblr? Or on a tag that's not #otherkin or #therian? I would genuinely like to know where all these privilege-denying, false-equivalence-drawing otherkin are (mostly so I can avoid them, but also out of curiosity).

Also, is OtherFurry a specific group? An insult? Am I missing something here?

(for the record, I'm LGBT - pansexual and non-binary - if that's relevant. And part of the reason I'm asking is that I'm also kinky and demisexual, which are both labels/groups which come under fire for much the same reasons, and in which, once again, I've never come across anyone claiming their kinkiness or demisexuality counts them under LGBT)