[ SECRET POST #2295 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #2295 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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02.
[Dangan Ronpa]


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03.
[Neil Gaiman]


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04.
[My Mad Fat Diary]


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05.
[victorious]


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06.
[Doctor Who]


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07.
[Trailer Park Boys]


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08.
[Kamen Rider Fourze]


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09.
[Cult]


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10.
[What's Cooking with Ben Shephard and Lisa Faulkner]


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11.
[Star Trek: The Next Generation]


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12.
[QI]


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13.
[Margaret Thatcher, The Amazing Mrs Pritchard, The Iron Lady]


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14.
[Buffy/Angel]


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15.
[Batman Beyond]


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16.
[Hetalia]


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Notes:

Secrets Left to Post: 03 pages, 074 secrets from Secret Submission Post #328.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 0 - broken links ], [ 0 - not!secrets ], [ 0 - not!fandom ], [ 0 - too big ], [ 0 - repeat ].
Current Secret Submissions Post: here.
Suggestions, comments, and concerns should go here.

Comments

[fscom]

04. http://oi50.tinypic.com/9kyufp.jpg
[My Mad Fat Diary]

[sugar_spun]

Haven't watched the show.

But I think I'm willing to put a lot of money on the concept that you are hugely misusing the term "Mary Sue".

(Jokes on you, I'm broke.)

[(Anonymous)]

Mary Sue, really? How? Or just a Character You Don't Like?

[nomorenoodles.livejournal.com]

She's hardly a Mary Sue, and she can't exactly help being a "bitch". She's not even a bitch, just a teenager.

Methinks you might just be jealous because a character who is overweight and has a mental illness is getting attention from cute boys.

[(Anonymous)]

You sound fat

[sugar_spun]

I didn't know fat had a sound. Is this like Phantom Tollbooth? Do claps make sheets of white paper?

[nomorenoodles.livejournal.com]

Do I? Sorry, I'm not fat at all.

[(Anonymous)]

You sound protein

[(Anonymous)]

..Okay...

This is the dumbest sort of response. It's the same level of dumb as "don't share my exact opinions on female rights?...well then you sound male....and probably have a neckbeard"

It's an ad hominem attack and ad hominem (attacking the person) is an argument fallacy for a reason. It ads nothing intelligent to the conversation, only telling people that you are clearly so personally threatened by a difference of opinion that you must resort to shallow "reasons" to discredit the opponent.

5/10

[(Anonymous)]

I thought it was a pretty unoriginal attempt, but you got some nice responses and some guy explaining the concept of ad hominem to you, so you must have done something right.

[(Anonymous)]

Methinks you might just be jealous because a character who is overweight and has a mental illness is getting attention from cute boys.

Not the OP, but why would the OP be jealous when that would never happen IRL?

[(Anonymous)]

Except that it...does happen IRL? I suppose it flatters you to think that it never would, but that's not reality.

[(Anonymous)]

Uhh yeah it does happen in real life. But I'm an asshole too; I am always surprised when overweight girls I don't find particularly attractive are in a relationship.

[sootyowl]

I don't think she's a Mary Sue. If Rae was, then she would be perfect. And her name would be Rae Magicalestica Hallowed Soul Diamond Bunny Rainbow Tearful Embrace Earl.

[(Anonymous)]

Best comment. Everyone can go home now.

[(Anonymous)]

She'd probably also be a half-Vulcan ensign in Starfleet who happened to be dating a vampire and had violet eyes.

[(Anonymous)]

I tried not to chuckle while reading, but then: "Embrace Earl". Fuck XD

[(Anonymous)]

Annnnd further evidence that "Mary Sue" doesn't actually mean anything anymore.

I'm starting to think that, to fandom, any female character who is central to the plot and whose actions have an impact on said plot is a Mary Sue. In other words, any female protagonist is a Mary Sue.

[(Anonymous)]

I'm convinced people just use Mary Sue when they're too lazy to sit down and reflect on the reasons they don't like a character.

[astridv]

They use either "Mary Sue", or "badly written". Those expressions have lost all meaning.

sorry I have a lot of thoughts on this

[(Anonymous)]

ugh agreed. I still remember seeing a tumblr blog where someone threw a temper tantrum about how TV tropes is so bullshit because ...they told her that her opinion that Katniss is a Mary Sue is just an opinion . (YMMV on the site, it has its problems...but seriously this is a dumb reason).

People like this have just ruined any meaning it had because everyone wants their definition to be the right one. Also about the Katniss thing I read the books and tbh I thought that she earned her right to attention and such considering she got it through surviving a huge death fight...and then surviving another one. It bothers me that it seems like any female protagonist is a Sue. If Mary Sues break the suspension of disbelief....its' pretty much like people saying that it breaks their suspension of disbelief if..even in a fantasy or fictional universe a girl does something cool.

But the a boy who's the chosen one (as much as I love Harry Potter) and is part of a prophecy is ,mostly widely adored. But girl who becomes well known in her world by fighting for her own survival such a ridiculous concept.

It's sad, but for a while the whole Mary Sue thing used to make me afraid to write female characters and I ended up making them muted or passive characters because I was so afraid of the ridicule that came with being accused or writing a "Sue" . Thankfully I've grown out of that though and plan on writing some awesome females to the best of my ability and don't really give a damn if someone thinks they're Sues for being a little cool.

[(Anonymous)]

troll secret..?

[(Anonymous)]

"Mary-Sue" meaning female character I don't like, naturally. Rae was extremely flawed in lots of ways, so I'm kind of confused.

Although, admittedly I was a little jealous of how quickly a group of friends who thought she was super gr8 (which came across as more telling than showing to me) seemed to fall into her lap. But, well, that's just fiction, I guess. You just have to suspend your disbelief.

[cloudsinvenice]

I was a bit surprised too, but then I figured that Rae's own altered social confidence played a big part in that. It's not that she was unlikeable-by-anyone-but-her-best-friend in the past, but she may well have felt that way and behaved accordingly, cutting herself off from opportunities to make friends with a bigger group of people in the process. Yeeeah, I've been that girl.

But once she took a chance on hanging out with the friends-of-her-best-friend (whose name I'm annoyingly blanking on - Chloe?) she loosened up a bit and they realised she was fun/she realised she could get on with them as a group... but she's also shown second-guessing herself quite a bit during that time, so it's also not totally kittens-and-rainbows.

I think the OP just doesn't get that Mary Sues are, by definition, annoyingly perfect, and thinks that they're characters who the fandom steamrollers you into liking or something. Me, I loved Rae, and I did think she was mean and thoughtless at times, but no more so than the average teenager, particularly one going through so much upheaval in the space of a few months.

[autumnal]

sorry but i am just

laughing too hard at this secret

if you don't like her, you don't like her, and that's fine. i thought she definitely had a lot of unlikable moments and said/did dumb things (as dumb teenagers often do)

also, mary sue as a term now has basically lost all meaning but if you were implying that she is ~perfect and universally adored~ then we were probably not watching the same show