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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2013-04-15 06:47 pm

[ SECRET POST #2295 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2295 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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[Dangan Ronpa]


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03.
[Neil Gaiman]


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04.
[My Mad Fat Diary]


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[victorious]


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06.
[Doctor Who]


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07.
[Trailer Park Boys]


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08.
[Kamen Rider Fourze]


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09.
[Cult]


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10.
[What's Cooking with Ben Shephard and Lisa Faulkner]


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[Star Trek: The Next Generation]


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[QI]


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[Margaret Thatcher, The Amazing Mrs Pritchard, The Iron Lady]


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[Buffy/Angel]


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[Batman Beyond]


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[Hetalia]


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Notes:

Secrets Left to Post: 03 pages, 074 secrets from Secret Submission Post #328.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 0 - broken links ], [ 0 - not!secrets ], [ 0 - not!fandom ], [ 0 - too big ], [ 0 - repeat ].
Current Secret Submissions Post: here.
Suggestions, comments, and concerns should go here.

(Anonymous) 2013-04-16 12:41 am (UTC)(link)
Annnnd further evidence that "Mary Sue" doesn't actually mean anything anymore.

I'm starting to think that, to fandom, any female character who is central to the plot and whose actions have an impact on said plot is a Mary Sue. In other words, any female protagonist is a Mary Sue.

(Anonymous) 2013-04-16 01:18 am (UTC)(link)
I'm convinced people just use Mary Sue when they're too lazy to sit down and reflect on the reasons they don't like a character.
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[personal profile] astridv 2013-04-16 08:49 am (UTC)(link)
They use either "Mary Sue", or "badly written". Those expressions have lost all meaning.

(Anonymous) 2013-04-16 02:09 pm (UTC)(link)
But wait....doesn't everything I dislike automatically mean it's badly written, I couldn't be well written or would like it wouldn't it? Personal preference doesn't exist!1!

sorry I have a lot of thoughts on this

(Anonymous) 2013-04-16 03:18 am (UTC)(link)
ugh agreed. I still remember seeing a tumblr blog where someone threw a temper tantrum about how TV tropes is so bullshit because ...they told her that her opinion that Katniss is a Mary Sue is just an opinion . (YMMV on the site, it has its problems...but seriously this is a dumb reason).

People like this have just ruined any meaning it had because everyone wants their definition to be the right one. Also about the Katniss thing I read the books and tbh I thought that she earned her right to attention and such considering she got it through surviving a huge death fight...and then surviving another one. It bothers me that it seems like any female protagonist is a Sue. If Mary Sues break the suspension of disbelief....its' pretty much like people saying that it breaks their suspension of disbelief if..even in a fantasy or fictional universe a girl does something cool.

But the a boy who's the chosen one (as much as I love Harry Potter) and is part of a prophecy is ,mostly widely adored. But girl who becomes well known in her world by fighting for her own survival such a ridiculous concept.

It's sad, but for a while the whole Mary Sue thing used to make me afraid to write female characters and I ended up making them muted or passive characters because I was so afraid of the ridicule that came with being accused or writing a "Sue" . Thankfully I've grown out of that though and plan on writing some awesome females to the best of my ability and don't really give a damn if someone thinks they're Sues for being a little cool.