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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2013-04-16 06:41 pm

[ SECRET POST #2296 ]


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OP Here

(Anonymous) 2013-04-16 11:07 pm (UTC)(link)
You said it better than I could before I could. Thank you. That is exactly what I meant.

In fact in many instances, if a teacher had kids, they could no longer be a teacher, so yes, being a teacher is a trope on par with psychopath and crazy.

Re: OP Here

(Anonymous) 2013-04-16 11:11 pm (UTC)(link)
What time period are we talking about here? Because Harry Potter was set in modern times (read 1990s), not the Victorian age.

Re: OP Here

(Anonymous) 2013-04-16 11:13 pm (UTC)(link)
HP may have been set in modern times, but the wizarding world was certainly stuck in the past with many of their ideas and problems, as well as their whole educational system.
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[personal profile] morieris 2013-04-16 11:20 pm (UTC)(link)
What past problems did they have? Their racism is something people deal with in modern times.

Re: OP Here

(Anonymous) 2013-04-17 04:58 am (UTC)(link)
The "non-racist" good guys of HP still use terms like muggle to describe a person, so I'm gonna say they are at a different stage of dealing with racism than the real world was in the 90ies?
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[personal profile] fuchsiascreams 2013-04-17 06:32 pm (UTC)(link)
Kind of like how white people refer to black people as "black"? Kind of like how Muggles refer to magical people as "wizards" and "witches"? It's a label and an observation, not a judgment.

Re: OP Here

(Anonymous) 2013-04-16 11:23 pm (UTC)(link)
Not in regards to women, though. If you read those books that give some of the history of the wizarding world (like the one about magical creatures, and the quidditch one) it's clear that women in the wizarding world had jobs outside the home long before it was common in the muggle world.

(Aside, why was I surprised that my computer didn't recognize the word "quidditch?")
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[personal profile] chardmonster 2013-04-16 11:38 pm (UTC)(link)
Yeah, man, they wear ROBES, that's really old fashioned

I mean remember the end where Hermione swore off magic and stayed home to have babies forever
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[personal profile] fuchsiascreams 2013-04-17 06:31 pm (UTC)(link)
Yeah, because everybody knows that racism doesn't exist anymore.

Re: OP Here

(Anonymous) 2013-04-16 11:14 pm (UTC)(link)
da

True, but the trope still stuck. If a teacher doesn't want to have children, people say, "oh, of course, you work with children all day, so you don't want any at home." If any other woman doesn't want to have children, even today, a lot of people will say things like, "you will change your mind when you get older." Because clearly all women want to be around children, ideally as a mother or at least as a teacher.
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[personal profile] greenvelvetcake 2013-04-16 11:12 pm (UTC)(link)
Yeah, no, it's not.

Re: OP Here

(Anonymous) 2013-04-16 11:19 pm (UTC)(link)
being a teacher is a trope on par with psychopath and crazy.

No.
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Re: OP Here

[personal profile] badass_tiger 2013-04-16 11:59 pm (UTC)(link)
Yes, the institution not allowing you to have children totally makes you the same as the deluded and the psychos.

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(Anonymous) 2013-04-17 12:09 am (UTC)(link)
Oh yeah.

I remember that one time I had a teacher who told me she had a kid. All the sudden the door was busted down and the feds dragged her out. The next day we had a new teacher who was properly childless...

except that never happened. I've had plenty of teachers who had kids. One of my favorite English teachers had a kid.
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[personal profile] nyxelestia 2013-04-17 01:39 am (UTC)(link)
One of my favorite English teachers taught class while she was pregnant - she got pregnant in the middle of the year, and didn't take maternity leave until summer. One of my other favorite teachers, I never met until she came back from maternity leave.

It wasn't until high school that I learned in history class that a lot of women were barred from teaching if they had kids, and were often fired once they got pregnant (especially if it was out of wedlock). I had no idea until well into my teens that some people thought "teacher = childless" or that being childless was supposed to be some kind of stereotype about teachers, because so many of my teachers had pictures of their kids around and were pregnant or even brought young children to class now and then.

Re: OP Here

(Anonymous) 2013-04-17 12:11 am (UTC)(link)
"being a teacher is a trope on par with psychopath and crazy."

Still no.