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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2013-04-16 06:41 pm

[ SECRET POST #2296 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2296 ⌋

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meredith44: SPN Bela with neutral expression, yellow and blue panes of color behind her (SPN Bela windows)

[personal profile] meredith44 2013-04-17 03:29 am (UTC)(link)
"She was clever, strong, funny, and self-assured..."
And that is why I liked her. I guess I'm not understanding why a character has to want to be liked to be likeable. I mean, there are a crapload of characters in fandom at large (Sherlock and House are the first two that spring to mind) and in SPN fandom in particular (Gabriel and to me, Crowley, as I don't read his manipulation as a true desire to be liked) in particular who don't want to be liked, yet fans love them.

I think for me, it is that you are justifying your like of Crowley while I don't see him as that different from the person that you say you dislike that makes me side eye you a bit. I don't expect every person to like every character, male or female, but I also don't like double standards.

I well understand that my view is the minority. Particularly in this fandom. I've been reading Bela hate since the summer before the character was even first shown. I will continue to not understand the people who hold double standards for character behavior and people will continue to not understand why I actually like Bela. I'm used to it by now.

(Anonymous) 2013-04-17 03:48 am (UTC)(link)
Bela is awesome. I was honestly kind of shocked when I first started looking around fandom after marathoning the first five seasons and found out how hated she is by large portions of the fandom.
meredith44: SPN Bela looking down in profile, tinted yellow (SPN Bela profile down yellow)

[personal profile] meredith44 2013-04-17 04:01 am (UTC)(link)
There are a few people who like her, but, yeah, she is mostly very much hated. Sadly, though, it doesn't surprise me at all. Maybe because I had been in the fandom for awhile by that point.

OP

(Anonymous) 2013-04-17 04:17 am (UTC)(link)
Just gonna link to my response earlier in the thread rather than type it all out again.

http://fandomsecrets.dreamwidth.org/791010.html?thread=647627490#cmt647627490

I'd also like to add though, that funny/clever/etc. isn't enough to make me like a character as a person. I'll laugh at the funny and the clever (which I did do with Bela, as well as Lucifer, and I'm still doing with Crowley this season) but it takes a little more evidence of humanity to earn my affection.

Crowley this season has become too much like Bela for my tastes; there's no more little glimpses of something potentially better, or at least less evil, lurking under the surface. And it makes me sad.