[ SECRET POST #2297 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #2297 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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Comments

[agnes_bean]

While I agree Juliette's shitty childhood doesn't excuse her shitty behavior now (girl needs to get herself to a real therapist, ASAP), I think I agree with the OP that there's a difference between someone who ACTS spoiled for reasons that come from nothing to do with being raised in a privileged way, and someone who is spoiled. Maybe? Though yes, she does in general treat people like a total diva.

(Though TBH I don't think Juliette has any responsibility for giving a fuck about her mom, and also creepy therapy dude is clearly prying on her obvious inability to form functional relationships especially with men, so I have a hard time holding that situation against her. That guy is FUCKED UP.)

ayrt

[(Anonymous)]

Personally though tbh I think the argument as to whether or not Juliette is 'spoiled' is mostly semantics. Most people have different definitions of what makes someone spoiled, and I for one definitely feel Juliette fits into mine.

Also Juliette and creep therapist guy are both at fault in that situation. Juliette basically stole him away and started using him for her career and creepy therapy dude was completely okay with this.

(But I find the idea of Juliette not having to care about her mother at all kind of cruel, as her mom has honestly tried really hard to make amends and has taken full responsibility for her behavior and is actively trying to better herself, something Juliette really hasn't been able to do.)

Re: ayrt

[agnes_bean]

I agree re: semantics.

Re: Her mom, from my perspective what you have to remember is Jolene is an addict and has been all of Juliette's life. That completely destroyed Juliette's childhood in a way that Juliette has no responsibility to forgive, though of course it would be nice if she did (and probably better for Juliette, in terms of not holding on to that anger).

But, more importantly IMO, it's not like Jolene's been clean for any significant period of time. Yes, it's good that she's trying. But this is not the first time Jolene has gotten clean, and I see no reason that Juliette should necessarily believe it's going to stick. And Juliette 100% SHOULD NOT feel ANY responsibility for making sure her mom stays clean because she is the child in this situation (and only a young adult at that), and she has already suffered enough because of her mother.

I also disagree that Jolene has taken full responsibly (or that Juliette isn't trying to better herself, but that's anther story). Jolene is trying, sure, but Juliette didn't get that me-me-me personality from nowhere. I think Juliette's decision to have Jolene go back to Nashville and move out was 100% right and healthiest for both of them.

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Apparently I have a lot of feeling about this. I just really don't like the the show sometimes implies that her mother's sobriety is somehow this broken young woman's responsibility. (Not saying you were saying that -- I just get the vibe from the show sometimes.)