[ SECRET POST #2298 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #2298 ⌋

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Comments

[kallanda_lee]

I think Hannibal is a wonderfully complex character with a great mind and an interesting sense of humor.

That doesn't take away the fact he's a serial killing cannibal, though.

I think there's this weird trend in fandom to excuse characters' actions because you like them. It's silly. Fucked-up characters can be fascinating, you can love them, but don't go saying how poor and misunderstood they are.

[(Anonymous)]

True. However, given things like redemption arcs and atonement, or in some cases the sheer scope of actions taken by protagonists and antagonists alike in fiction, there's a grey area in between in some cases. In that some large scale actions taken by villains are more or less the same as those taken by heroes (think war situations), and in canons with active and lethal violence on both sides, it can get a bit sticky when you're supposed to code one group as heroes and the other as villains.

That said, I tend to think murdering and eating innocents is fairly unambiguous, as far as (im)moral actions go -_-; It's a personal violence for no better reason than to gratify an individual's appetites. So, yeah, gonna count that as a villain, I think.

[kallanda_lee]

Of course some people can redeem themselves! I think those are often vastly interesting stories that can leave the viewer/reader interestingly conflicted.

I'm just saying I think some people need to justify their love for an evil character by downplaying their actions, or by blaming their childhood, whatever...and I think that sometimes makes it more creepy. I think it's perfectly okay to love a well-written villain, it's the whole turning it around and making him a victim what makes it iffy.

[(Anonymous)]

Part of it might be that people have trouble separating love for a character with love for a person, so they feel guilty for loving the character because if they loved a person like that it would make them a bad person. So they try to excuse the character to help with that guilt.

In some circles if you say you love a villain, people tend to react with "OMG, how can you love someone who does something like that, you sicko!", when what you meant was "This is a really cool, creepy character who is doing awesome things to the storyline." So people can get a bit subconsciously defensive, and get caught up with trying to defend the character as a person since that's the accusation being leveled, forgetting that it's probably not actually the reason they liked the character as a character in the first place.

Not always, of course, some people genuinely do believe certain characters are redeemable and/or excusable on a personal level, and that's fine too. Arguable, but fine so long as no-one in real life is being hurt. But I think the subconscious defensiveness and confusion on person vs character might still be part of the wider pattern showing in fandom?

[kallanda_lee]

It might be, yes. Also it might be a lot of fandom is about shipping and/or crushes. That sort of would make it more difficult. "Eww, you crushing on a psycho" or "eww, you're writing him in a couple with my favorite character".