[ SECRET POST #2299 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #2299 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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[Kuroko no Basuke]


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[Milestone Inc./Radilgy/Karous]


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[Glee/RPS]


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[The Following]


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10. [SPOILERS for Resident Evil 6]



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11. [SPOILERS for Doctor Who]



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12. [SPOILERS for Homestuck]



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13. [SPOILERS for Southland]



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14. [WARNING for ?? something]



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15. [WARNING for abuse]



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16. [WARNING for rape]



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17. [WARNING for rape]

[Spartacus / Once Upon a Time]


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18. [WARNING for animal abuse]




















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Secrets Not Posted: [ 1 - broken links ], [ 1 - not!secrets ], [ 0 - not!fandom ], [ 1 - too big ], [ 0 - repeat ].
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Suggestions, comments, and concerns should go here.

Comments

[(Anonymous)]

Wow, I worry about all the people in this thread thinking that beating up a person is worse than torturing a helpless animal. Y'know there's a reason why psychologists view animal torture and killing as such a red flag psychological warning sign (because many serial killers started that way) but don't view beating someone up in the same light. Remind me never to let the people on here who think that animal torture is something minor near my pets!

[scrubber]

Torturing animals is considered a warning sign because causing another living thing excessive pain is a bad thing, period. Children aren't really in a position to torture other people so if they act out violence, it has to be on animals 99% of the time because animals are AVAILABLE. Not because they are special or land a special position on some moral hierarchy. When psychopaths or whoever are in a position to hurt people, they DO.

And there probably would've been different answers if the question had been phrased "Which is a more disturbed person, one who tortures animals or one who beats up homeless people?" because the question is which is "worse" and uh, people sympathize with the thinking, feeling being who experiences a variety of anguish when singled out and brutalized for no fucking reason more than the one who doesn't. If you don't get that, then I don't know what to tell you. NEVER LETTING YOU COME AROUND MY CHILDREN OMGOMGMONSTER!!!!1!!!

...And no one will hurt your pets, because no one cares about your pets except you. No one here ever said that animal torture is minor. It's not, everybody knows that. Calm down.

[(Anonymous)]

people sympathize with the thinking, feeling being

Except animals are sentient, thinking and feeling beings too. I'm pretty sure an animal being tortured is going to feel fear and pain in much the same way a human would. All right, they might not have the same thought processes as a human being beaten up (such as the example you gave of the person wondering "why am I being targeted?") but still I don't see why that diminishes their suffering.

It doesn't make sense to me that an animal not being able to understand what's going on, in the same way that an adult human can, somehow makes it less of a crime. A baby wouldn't be able to understand what was going on either if s/he were being tortured, but I'm pretty sure no-one would claim that that somehow makes them a less sympathetic victim. Or that beating up a human adult was worse than torturing a baby for that reason.

[scrubber]

That humans suffer more does NOT diminish the suffering of an animal. I'm not saying pain that happens to animals is okay at all. But humans feel the pain and fear - which are largely chemical and don't inherently suggest a higher thinking/understanding - and SO much more as a product of higher thinking/understanding so that's why they matter to me more than fucking animals, sorry.

Babies are little humans so same rules apply. Just because they can't get it now doesn't mean it won't be a source of immense pain later in life. Children abused before memories form still show signs of being abused so yeah, still more important.

[(Anonymous)]

Plenty of animals who are abused still show signs in later life. You work at any animal sanctuary where previously abused animals are rescued and they'll tell you how different animals react different from the abuses they've suffered. Like humans, some are able to overcome it, some partially are, and some never do fully.

I myself have a cat who came from a previously abusive home (he will still only a few months old when I got him), and even though he's lived with me for over 12 years now he's still extremely nervous of people (including of me sometimes) and will often hide away. If you honestly think that an animal who's been abused doesn't ever carry emotional scars, as well as physical ones, from it then I'm going to have to respectfully disagree with you and end this conversation here, because we're never going to agree.

[(Anonymous)]

The difference here is

- one apparent torture of an animal
- repetitive acts of beating up homeless people (who trend towards the defenceless, ill and mentally disabled)

No-one here is saying animal torture is okay. They're saying that repeatedly beating up homeless people is worse than one case of torturing an animal. In comparison, yes, one animal tortured, the specifics we don't know about, is minor in comparison to repetitively mugging and beating on homeless people.

If you somehow don't get that, you're the person that needs to be worried about 'cause you're lacking some serious empathy there.

And as above said, none of us a give a fuck about your pets. That's not how it works. Valuing human life above a random animal does not equal animal abusers.

[(Anonymous)]

I'm not lacking in empathy because I'd treat both as equally serious. I was assuming this this was about ONE account of beating up a homeless person VS ONE account of torturing an animal. I was unaware that the beating up and mugging (I didn't know mugging was involved at all) of homeless people was a repetitive thing. I'd consider those things to be equally abhorrent since in both cases it's abuse vulnerable and helpless beings.