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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2013-04-20 03:56 pm

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(Anonymous) 2013-04-20 08:07 pm (UTC)(link)
I agree. Those people suck. I don't think anyone likes those people.

However, I also think that those people - I don't say that they don't exist, but I think sometimes they exist more as a phantom in people's minds than in actual life - they exist as this kind of amorphous concept of Those Pretentious Bastards Out There, the same way that 'hipsters' kind of tend to function. And I also think it would be a huge mistake to think that everyone who reads those certain books, or who reads classics, does so for that purpose, or to somehow look down on reading the classics because of people like that. I know you didn't say that, but I think it's worth emphasizing.
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[personal profile] intrigueing 2013-04-20 08:18 pm (UTC)(link)
This is a VERY good comment ;)

(Anonymous) 2013-04-20 08:25 pm (UTC)(link)
this comment is perfection
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[personal profile] dreemyweird 2013-04-20 08:49 pm (UTC)(link)
Thank you.
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[personal profile] quantumreality 2013-04-20 08:09 pm (UTC)(link)
It's even worse when said classics-readers get all Judgey McJudgeypants on you if you haven't read them and have valid reasons why not.

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(Anonymous) 2013-04-20 08:19 pm (UTC)(link)
But how do you know that's the only reason they read those books??

(Anonymous) 2013-04-20 08:28 pm (UTC)(link)
What's the difference between people who read the books to brag about it and people who read the books then just happen to brag about it?

Answer: The second group actually exists beyond the occasional asshole.

(Anonymous) 2013-04-20 08:34 pm (UTC)(link)
Let me guess. You're the sort of person who thinks that if anyone reads a book on a bus, in a cafe, anywhere but at home under a blanket with the curtains shut, then they're just doing it to show off to people?

(Anonymous) 2013-04-20 08:42 pm (UTC)(link)
be wary of projecting too much

sometimes people are just genuinely enthusiastic about books/plays/music which might be thought of a ~~highbrow

they might not be bragging, just fangirling

(Anonymous) 2013-04-20 08:52 pm (UTC)(link)
Agreed so much. You can always recognize these people because they never want to actually discuss whatever book they're bragging about. Even if you ask them a simple question like "Who's your favourite charcter?" or "What did you think of [insert important plot point here]?"

They just want asspats for being ~*intellectual*~.
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[personal profile] dancing_clown 2013-04-20 09:12 pm (UTC)(link)
How on earth do you know that's why they're reading? Stop being so judgmental.
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[personal profile] visp 2013-04-20 09:25 pm (UTC)(link)
There's really no bad reason to read a book.

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[personal profile] brooms 2013-04-20 09:31 pm (UTC)(link)
lol i've so done this. it's usually a teenager thang & i don't really think it's that bad. OBNOXIOUS for these ppl's friends, especially if it's a phase that lasts too long, but at some point, you're bound to start reading a book/author just to brag that you've read it and end up loving the shit out of it.

it's all kinds of odd, but it turns out that a lot of the classics are classics because they're good. so you're going to stumble into good shit that suits you and it's a great feeling, tbh!!!

(Anonymous) 2013-04-20 09:37 pm (UTC)(link)
Eh, I've read a bunch of classic novels because honestly I just want to BE the sort of person who reads classic novels. I think it's a form of self-improvement to study a variety of wisdoms from different countries and time periods. Call me pretentious or whatever but I believe reading for shallow purposes is still better than willful ignorance.

(Anonymous) 2013-04-20 11:04 pm (UTC)(link)
There is no wrong reason to read a good book. You can't know what that book might say to them that they never expected. And what does it matter to you WHY they are reading them?
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[personal profile] badass_tiger 2013-04-20 11:11 pm (UTC)(link)
You know, my mum always said, the number of people who even enjoy reading these days, it doesn't matter WHAT reason people read books as long as they're reading them. Of course, my mum always said that about the children in her school, but same principle applies imo.

(Anonymous) 2013-04-21 12:44 am (UTC)(link)
Those people who claim that not reading specific old books means you hate learning >:[ jfc /talking about you classics!wank

(Anonymous) 2013-04-21 01:12 am (UTC)(link)
P R E A C H

(Anonymous) 2013-04-21 02:54 am (UTC)(link)
While these people can be annoying, I find that they're not nearly as common as everyone seems to think, and honestly, I'd rather deal with someone who brags about what they've watched/read than someone who assumes that anyone who reads a certain type of book is doing it for attention. Sometimes it's hard to tell the difference between someone who reads the classics to say they have and someone who reads them because they feel they should, but still finds enjoyment in them.
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A classic is something everyone wants to have read but no one wants to read.

[personal profile] nyxelestia 2013-04-21 03:21 am (UTC)(link)
Story of modern literature (especially with the way it's taught in America, though this may be in effect in other countries, I don't know.)

That said, do be careful in jumping to conclusions (I seem to be saying this a lot, today...) Maybe those people are just bragging, but hadn't read the books in order to brag. Or maybe they're just fangirling/fanboying over the books, and sounding like they're bragging about it is just an unfortunate side-effect.

I mean, there are people who really do only read things to brag or show-off, but not everyone who brags about their reading or reads in public is doing it to show off.

(Anonymous) 2013-04-21 03:40 am (UTC)(link)
i dunno man at least they read vOv
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[personal profile] rbhudson 2013-04-21 06:44 am (UTC)(link)
Agreed; can't you just enjoy reading?
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[personal profile] amethyste 2013-04-21 08:08 am (UTC)(link)
The whole Russian reading culture is built upon this shit. They still have an idea of a working canon of classics, and if you don't read those you get frowned upon. Always pisses me off. There are even people who take pride in ~only being interested in classics~.

(Anonymous) 2013-04-24 08:17 pm (UTC)(link)
I started reading Shakespeare when I was nine. Wanting to be all "Hi, I'm nine and I read Shakespeare" was definitely part of it.

...And look, I guess I'm STILL bragging!

But that also meant I wanted to *become the person that had read the Shakespeare* as soon as possible. Whatever was in those books, it was apparently big and important and mind-expanding and I wanted that in my brain *now*, please. I wanted to prove I was ready for the big guns.

Admittedly doing stuff for bragging rights as an adult is a bit different from doing it when you're nine, but 1) how can you tell when that's why people are doing reading something? 2) Even if they do enjoy a bit of bragging, how do you know that means they didn't also sincerely enjoy the book? Maybe bragging rights isn't the noblest reason to push yourself a little further intellectually than you might otherwise go but that doesn't mean you don't genuinely get something from it.

People who sneer at everything "below" a perceived intellectual standard can fuck right off, though.