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fandomsecrets2013-04-20 03:56 pm
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[ SECRET POST #2300 ]
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(Anonymous) 2013-04-20 10:38 pm (UTC)(link)but srsly, the point is that they are reading the damned thing, and even if some living strawman waddles out of the field to go score brownie points on tumblr, there's a block/ignore feature for a reason
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An extreme example:
Reading the Protocols of the Elders of Zion, or Mein Kampf, because you're interested in the historical context of European anti-semitism in the first half of the 20th century?
Good reason.
Reading them because you actually admire Hitler and think the Protocols are true?
Very, very bad reason.
A normal example (and in fact, the situation being presented in the OP):
Reading a classic because it seems interesting, or because you want to better yourself, or because you've seen it referenced all over the place, and want to see what the original was?
All good reasons.
Reading a classic so you can hold yourself up as better than other people, who haven't?
Bad reason.
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(Anonymous) 2013-04-21 04:57 pm (UTC)(link)anyway, extremist bigotry:
Reading a classic so you can hold yourself up as better than other people, who haven't?
aside from earlier points about the OP holding up a strawman aside, let's say that this is something a real person is actually doing for a minute, and then consider what this could actually mean:
maybe they're still dicks and are going into it with bad attitude where they're still going to look down on people who haven't read the classics, but just feel like they're missing something important by not reading the books
they would still technically be doing it to hold themselves up as "better" than other people, but at the heart of it, they'd still be doing it to enrich themselves, and that's not such a bad motivation
because idk about you but i haven't met a single person who would slog through classics with that remaining as their primary motivator, whether they love to brag about stuff and be hipster quings or not
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(Anonymous) 2013-04-21 04:58 pm (UTC)(link)*extremist bigotry aside
wow, self, wow
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Because, the fact that I'm not, in any way, doing so, means that neither the original Godwin's Law - the observation that as an online debate grows, the probability of one party comparing the other to Hitler/the Nazis begins to approach one - nor its more often invoked corollary - that the person who first does so is automatically assumed to lose the argument - holds.
As usual, xkcd sums this up in a single panel.
You're right. You don't.
And, you know who I know who's done this?
Me. It's not something I'm proud of, but I did it.
It was my sole motivation for slogging through a handful of Dickens and the Bible in high school.
I wasn't enjoying it. I didn't feel myself enriched by it, but I thought that since I was smarter than most, I had to do it, as proof. Because it didn't matter how well read I was, otherwise, if I didn't read These Specific Things, I couldn't really claim I was.