[ SECRET POST #2300 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #2300 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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Comments

[(Anonymous)]

....the fact that the show is written in a manner that even allows such speculation just makes me Grouchy McGroucherson. I'm sorry, no! NO NONONONO! Now even the TARDIS is implicated in the stupid soap opera melodrama?! If I wanted to watch Corrie, I'd watch flipping Corrie, wouldn't I, Moffat?

/Classic!Who fan, reporting in/grumbling and griping

[lex_antonia]

Steven Moffat, much as I like to complain about him, had nothing whatsoever to do with the episode in question. Just sayin'.

[(Anonymous)]

No, of course he doesn't. People can come and write whatever they want for the show.

[lex_antonia]

Lol.

Now craving fic where the crack in the wall ate Russell T. Davies.

[(Anonymous)]

Uh, I'm not sure what you're referring to. The show has always been written in "such a manner". The TARDIS takes him to times and places where their happens to be a disaster going down where he would be really helpful in stopping. That has always, always been true, ever since the very first season.

The writers back then weren't thinking "oh, the TARDIS takes him to these places on purpose", but the "convenient disaster, yo!" formula has always been a narrative conceit --nothing wrong with that, all shows have them --and ever since the TARDIS was confirmed to be alive (which was well back in the classic era), fans -- yes oldschool fans -- have theorized this quite seriously as the explanation for that narrative conceit, since chalking it up to coincidence was seriously stretching things. How is the show "written in such a manner" that makes that particular feature of the show any different than it ever was, except making the fan theory canon rather than implied?

Also, er...implicated in what "stupid soap opera melodrama?" The episode shown here is a pretty heavy riff on the Hartnell era episode The Aztecs, where Barbara had a moral crisis and conflict with the Doctor very similar to Donna's in this episode, and several other "not allowed to change history" storylines from the Classic series.

[intrigueing]

....except for how this theory applies to the Classic series just as much as the new series? You could come up with this secret based on evidence solely from the CIassic series, and the behavior of the TARDIS hasn't changed between the classic and new series at all except that the Doctor has actually slightly improved his piloting skills, meaning him running into trouble is more under his control now than before.

I mean, the theory that the TARDIS takes him where he's needed has been a thing long before the new series was even a twinkle in RTD's eye, it's not something nu!Who came up with, and it's certainly not something that changed how the TARDIS operates with regards to the conveniently-timed adventures. Neil Gaiman just said what everyone always assumed.

[(Anonymous)]

Er, I believe this kind of thing was being brought up explicitly well before the new series, in the novels and in Big Finish.

[(Anonymous)]

Uh, unless you're referring to the fact that The Doctor's Wife made the TARDIS taking the Doctor where he needs to go actual canon (as opposed to the near-unanimous fanon of both viewers and writers), the Classic Series isn't written in a way that doesn't allow such speculation. Plenty of "such speculation" can be wrung from the Classic Series alone, especially from those fascinating early days when the TARDIS was totally uncontrollable. Nor is the new series written in any different way that changes how the TARDIS functions from how she functioned in the Classic Series. So...gotta say I don't understand what you're talking about.