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⌈ Secret Post #2302 ⌋

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Comments

[(Anonymous)]

if you're in a space where people are perfectly used to a lack of capitalization and minimal punctuation and most people can read it just fine, it is a little silly to let it bother you. not to mention a little socially unaware

i wouldn't write my thesis this way, but a tumblr post? why the hell not. they're different settings with different linguistic expectations.

[(Anonymous)]

sa

p.s. not sure to what extent i'd call capitalization and punctuation "grammar"

they're more typological conventions

da

[(Anonymous)]

"different linguistic expectations"

Why? Why shouldn't the general linguistic expectations of everyday life consist of having a solid grasp of proper English? I mean, does it hurt your pinky finger to hit the 'shift' button? The concept that pressing an extra key on a keyboard is somehow equivalent to exerting an enormous amount of effort just... boggles my mind.

Re: da

[dancing_clown]

I'm with you on this, but you're fighting a losing battle.

Re: da

[(Anonymous)]

dude, i have a grasp of "proper english," but i'm not going to fret about having perfect grammar and capitalization when i text or go on tumblr.

and hey, i can ask you the reverse: does it really bother you that much that people don't use the shift key 24/7?

as long as you get what the other person is saying, i really don't see the point of throwing a fit, tbh.

Re: da

[(Anonymous)]

The thing I don't get is, honestly, the notion that it's ANY more effort to hit the shift key occasionally; if you're a reasonably fluent typist, doesn't it just happen naturally in the course of typing?

Even if you're not, I guess I can't wrap my head around the notion that meeting the bare minimum of being understood is sufficient when you're trying to communicate ideas to other people. Ts pssbl t cmmnct lk ths, bt ts crtnly mr dffclt fr th rdr t ndrstnd. I don't get why anyone would want to adopt a "typing style" that didn't care about basic grammatical rules -- what the motivation is.

Re: da

[(Anonymous)]

yo wut

this typing style and following "basic grammatical rules" are not mutually exclusive. these sentences are syntactically and morphologically well-formed. u r conflating typological conventions w/ grammar and thats stupid

Now, if you want to argue that everyone should use the standard all the time, that's a different matter (though I'll still disagree with you). But don't act like it has anything to do with "grammar" or correct English. Because if you think that, you're wrong.

Re: da

[(Anonymous)]

pssst

orthography =/= grammar

u might wanna make sure you have your vocabulary straight before you start going on about communicating ideas to other people

Re: da

[(Anonymous)]

nayrt

Orthography, that's the word I was forgetting. Thanks, anon.

Re: da

[(Anonymous)]

I totally agree with you, but I think sometimes it's because people haven't learnt to type. So if you need to look at the keyboard, or type with two fingers then anything with fewer keystrokes must be easier. I learnt the old fashioned way, on a manual typewriter no less when I was a teenager a long time ago. So it would be unnatural for me not to capitalise. It's an automatic thing, but I never look at the keyboard either.

Re: da

[(Anonymous)]

ayrt

u are totally not getting it. it is not really about the "effort". i never said that

people often use different styles of speech for different registers, in different settings. u are not always using your most "proper" speech, nor should you. this is p much the same thing in typographical form

btw this sort of english is perfectly grammatical, tho nonstandard and arguably not "proper". people don't need to use the standard all the time and there are many potential reasons why someone might choose not to use the standard at any given time

lrn 2 linguistics

[(Anonymous)]

You might have different linguistic expectations in informal mediums, but I see no reason why everyone should think the same. Using punctuation and capitalization isn't onerous, but it's really funny when people behave like it's the equivalent of pushing a square boulder up Mount Everest.

[(Anonymous)]

ayrt

I don't think it's onerous in the slightest. I think that I like having different writing styles to use in different situations that can convey subtly different meanings/moods. Some of those writing styles are nonstandard, and that's fine with me.

Of course, you don't need to think the same. There might be many situations in which I would choose to use a nonstandard way of writing, while you would think it would be more appropriate to adhere to the standard in that situation. But that doesn't mean that my choice would be wrong, just that we see the situation in different ways.

Using the standard is itself a choice. If you insist on using the standard even in informal situations, you may come across to some people as stuffy or whatever. You're probably fine with that. Other people may want to present themselves differently.

[(Anonymous)]

You have my respect and support.