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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2013-04-22 06:45 pm

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Re: WHOVIANS OF F!S

(Anonymous) 2013-04-22 11:33 pm (UTC)(link)
Start the New Series (series 1, with Rose). That's what I did, and worked my way up until I finally caught up. Then I saw the Doctor Who movie featuring the 8th Doctor (takes place directly before the new series starts).

I'm currently finishing up one of the the spin-offs, Torchwood (recommend watching this after s3), but as soon as that's over with I intend to start on Classic Who. I tried to start the classic series first but found it way too dry. Hopefully it will be easier now that I have more of a feel for the DW universe.

Seriously, though, just start from New Who.

Re: WHOVIANS OF F!S

(Anonymous) 2013-04-22 11:45 pm (UTC)(link)
No. Do not start with Rose. Rose is a terrible episode and really gives a weird impression of the show.

I'd start with a small variety of scattered episodes to get the feel for the show first. The Empty Child/The Doctor Dances. Gridlock. The Fires of Pompeii. Smith and Jones. The End of the World. The Impossible Planet/The Satan Pit. School Reunion. Dalek. The Eleventh Hour. The Rings of Akhenaten. The Runaway Bride. Pick a few of those.

Then go back to Rose, and watch it in order.

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Re: WHOVIANS OF F!S

[personal profile] fenm 2013-04-23 12:01 am (UTC)(link)
No. Do not start with Rose. Rose is a terrible episode and really gives a weird impression of the show.

Interesting... care to clarify? I was a fan before I saw "Rose", so I might not have noticed the "weird impression" stuff since I already knew the ins and outs of the show. Plus, it's been awhile since I've seen "Rose", so maybe I'm forgetting some stuff.

Re: WHOVIANS OF F!S

(Anonymous) 2013-04-23 12:18 am (UTC)(link)
What? Well, maybe this works for some people but I personally have to start a series from the beginning. Watching a few scattered episodes when you don't have background info is awful.

If you do prefer to do it this way, OP, I suggest watching "Father's Day" or "The Empty Child/The Doctor Dances" first. "The End of the World" and "Dalek" is also good.

"Aliens of London/World War 3" are to this day some of my least favorite episodes, and I don't recommend starting off there at all.
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Re: WHOVIANS OF F!S

[identity profile] carma-bee.livejournal.com 2013-04-23 12:21 am (UTC)(link)
i agree, i have a friend who was started on the runaway bride (mentioned above) by another friend, and it turned her totally off Who until i convinced her to start again with Rose

Re: WHOVIANS OF F!S

(Anonymous) 2013-04-23 12:34 am (UTC)(link)
...um, lol. This is awkward, but I had a friend who thought Rose was so stilted and awkward and dumb she'd make fun of me for watching the show until I forced her to sit down and watch The Runaway Bride, which she thought was "two parts hilarious and one part mind-blowing," to quote her.

At first I thought it might be just that she preferred Ten to Nine, but once she started watching she loved Nine too, so it wasn't that.

Hey, hey OP? OP! *waves* I think carma-bee's comment combined with mine pretty much sums up the fanbase of this show perfectly :D Everyone's opinions are unbelievably contradictory, and IMO you're best off just reading promo blurbs and watching whatever episodes sound cool to you.
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Re: WHOVIANS OF F!S

[identity profile] carma-bee.livejournal.com 2013-04-23 12:40 am (UTC)(link)
lol well damn, i've never heard that before! i wasn't much of a runaway bride fan at first and now i like it a lot more but it's still not in my top 10 at all. but i definitely agree that who fans can have some of the most differing opinions of almost any fandom, guess it happens when a show's been around 50 years and has so many actors.
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Re: WHOVIANS OF F!S

[personal profile] intrigueing 2013-04-23 12:27 am (UTC)(link)
Watching a few scattered episodes when you don't have background info is awful.

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*does not compute*

*error*

How can you live? I cannot comprehend how anyone can be like this. Not knowing the background at first is half the magic of getting into any show. But there I go with my rigid opinions too :)

But I'm sure the OP wouldn't've have asked for recs if they could only enjoy watching things in order.
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Re: WHOVIANS OF F!S

[personal profile] cassandraoftroy 2013-04-23 01:54 am (UTC)(link)
Whereas this really doesn't make sense to me. If I come into a show cold in the middle of the series, I spend most of the episode thinking, "What's going on? Who are these people? Why should I care about them?" The first episode is meant to introduce the viewer to the characters, the setting, and the premise, so that everything else that happens after that will make sense and you don't have to waste time being confused when you could be enjoying the story.

I mean, YMMV certainly, and you should enjoy things how you want to enjoy them, but I don't get being *confused* by wanting to understand what's going on.
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Re: WHOVIANS OF F!S

[personal profile] intrigueing 2013-04-23 02:20 am (UTC)(link)
Well see, I don't see it as "wasting time being confused". Being confused IS the best part for me. I love the confusion. I love the gaps. It gives everything such a grand mysterious vibe.

Because you can try to guess and try to fill in the holes in your understanding yourself with basically anything your mind comes up with and it feels so big, like there's a million possible explanations for and answers to the question of, as you say "what's going on? who are these people? why should I care about them?" and you don't know what that explanation is for sure, but there are so many possibilities and it's like the writers unintentionally wrote a mystery for you to solve (by watching more!) and that's just so exciting.

The whole impression is very surreal and cool and kind of hilarious sometimes and it's fascinating how very different it is when you rewatch the episode later when you do know everything that's going on. It's like getting two episodes in one.

But yeah, different strokes ;) That's just how I view it. Could be because I'm used to watching TV on TV since I was little, not on DVD, and I had to settle for whatever I happened to stumble across in the time slot I happened to be channel surfing in.

Re: WHOVIANS OF F!S

(Anonymous) 2013-04-23 01:57 am (UTC)(link)
Um...Well, speaking as someone like this...I *like* knowing wtf is going on plot-wise. It can give a really weird sense of a show if you take something from near the beginning, then jump to something closer to the end because character development tends to happen. It's not *quite* as bad with Dr. Who...but it can still give a weird sense of things.

And yeah - you are being a bit rigid there :P

Re: WHOVIANS OF F!S

(Anonymous) 2013-04-23 06:06 am (UTC)(link)
I just cannot do that. The very first Doctor Who episode I ever saw (The Runaway Bride, actually) was awesome and interesting and yet I couldn't enjoy it half as much as when I actually started watching NuWho form the beginning and had a better feel for the plot and the characters. Otherwise nothing makes sense, and it's no spend wasting time trying to figure why a character reacted a certain way, or said something weird, etc.

You lose too much when you just jump episodes. For instance, that episode where Ten was wearing a gas mask in "The Poison Sky" (4.05, i believe)and asked "Are you my mummy?". It wouldn't make a lick of sense unless you've seen the s1 eps "The Empty Child/The Doctor Dances".

I don't recommend skipping episodes at all the first time you watch the series. Not all the episodes are amazing (but isn't that so with every series?), but more often than not what pops up in any episode will pop up again.

Re: WHOVIANS OF F!S

(Anonymous) 2013-04-23 03:24 pm (UTC)(link)
Yes, but that joke would retroactively make sense after watching The Empty Child. Why does every single thing *have* to make sense the first time? If things don't make complete sense, isn't that a good way of making you want to see more?
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Re: WHOVIANS OF F!S

[identity profile] carma-bee.livejournal.com 2013-04-22 11:59 pm (UTC)(link)
yeah all of this. though imo you only have to watch the first two seasons of torchwood. ask for ep recs for classic who if you catch of with newwho
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Re: WHOVIANS OF F!S

[identity profile] carma-bee.livejournal.com 2013-04-23 12:00 am (UTC)(link)
though i actually started with new earth (s2e1) so that's totally possible too as long as you know the general story of the show beforehand