[ SECRET POST #2302 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #2302 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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Notes:

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Secrets Not Posted: [ 0 - broken links ], [ 1 - not!secrets ], [ 0 - not!fandom ], [ 1 - too big ], [ 0 - repeat ], [ 1 - personal attack ].
Current Secret Submissions Post: here.
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Comments

[(Anonymous)]

See, here is the thing. Yes. Regina has done awful things and is to some extent a horrible person. That is irrelevant to the issue of the writers sending out a horrible message regarding the status of adoptive parents, in fact it makes the message being sent out even worse. The worse Regina acts, the worse the message is, because there is one thing that is beyond dispute. Emma gave Henry up and wandered off with the rest of her life. She stopped being his mom or having any right to concern in his life that day, and if the show keeps ignoring that then it is a slap in the face to every real adoptive kid and adoptive parent in the audience. The more evil the acts of Regina the harder that slap is.

[(Anonymous)]

Except their rights weren't respected in the show. And by you giving it a hand-wave pass, you're essentially saying that the only rights that should be protected are those of adopted parents. Jefferson helped Regina, and she took his child from him. Regina needed something for her revenge, she stole a man's children and took them from him-FOR OVER THIRTY YEARS. Regina didn't like being told no? She, again, took a man away from his child for thirty years.

This isn't just 'bad things' she's doing. She's kidnapping children away from their parents. And you somehow think she's a victim, after doing it herself multiple times? Henry wanted to go live with Emma. Those children NEVER wanted to be apart from their fathers.

[(Anonymous)]

And that is all irrelevant. What you are saying is Regina did nasty things and deserves to suffer, so it is fine with you that Emma's character smacks adopted families in the face as long as it advances that suffering. I get you love the thought of Regina bent over a barrel and being ass-raped by baboons wielding splintery sticks, and that this is just one more stick for you to jam up her ass for being the Evil Queen. However, that is irrelevant.

Whether Regina was the Queen of Sugar and Hearts and all that is Pure, or whether she is black as sin itself is irrelevant to the fucking point. Yes, Reggie did bad, Reggie did very bad, Reggie did so bad I'm deliberately conflating her name with that of infamous sadistic gangster Reggie Kray. And that has no bearing over the way the show is punching adopted families in the face. In fact, that actually puts more force behind that punch.

Now jump off the "Regina must pay" bandwagon for a while, because the hurt behind the message the show is sending out over adoption has nothing to do with whether Regina is a good or bad person.

[(Anonymous)]

Regina would never be allowed to have custody of Henry. The courts would never allow her to have custody, she would be in jail for murder, kidnapping, rape, etc. So to say that Emma having Henry somehow spits in the face of a murderer having parental rights is just insanely silly. So your point is moot, as legally she wouldn't have any rights to him.

[(Anonymous)]

That doesn't matter. The point is Emma does not have any right to him either. Ever. Henry could get adopted by the Dalai Lama and The Pope for all I care. Or a reborn Adolf Hitler (whom, I gather from Once fans is seen as a more morally upstanding person than Regina) and Stalin. The point is; the parent still would not be Emma. And Emma ought never to be allowed in the picture as a parent.

[(Anonymous)]

Well Hitler wasn't a rapist, so he has that on her.

[(Anonymous)]

Uhm, actually it's not irrelevant. This isn't about her 'getting her just desserts', this is about her, the character, completely ignoring the parental rights of other people. You're defending her rights, and then saying that the other parents' rights don't matter, as they're biological parents. She herself could care less about their rights, so the fact that Henry wants to live with his bio-mom is fitting.

Just because you really love her character doesn't negate her hypocrisy. She can't have her cake and eat it, too. And I'm really glad that Henry wants to live with Emma and Neil and not Regina, because she is a terrible unfit mother.

[(Anonymous)]

No, it is irrelevant because the point is not Regina's parental rights. It is Emma's, because Disney/ABC wants us to believe she has some. Which she doesn't. And neither do any of her biological relations either. Regina's rights and wrongs are neither here nor there and continually dragging it back to them is just missing the point.

Emma surrendered every and all right to Henry when she put him up for adoption. Who he ends up with, good or bad, after that is none of her business.