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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2013-04-26 06:50 pm

[ SECRET POST #2306 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2306 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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[kind of porny, illustrated, Hetalia]


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09. [SPOILERS for Kingdom Hearts]



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10. [SPOILERS for Spartacus]
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12. [WARNING for rape]



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(Anonymous) 2013-04-26 11:16 pm (UTC)(link)
Guh, I totally know what you mean, OP. I went into the movie expecting a cute, fluffy adventure and came out wide-eyed in horror because HOLY SHIT that woman was abusive. I honestly wonder how many people who worked on that movie actually realized how (for want of a better word) "triggery" Mother Gothel would be, because I've seen TONS of people on this comm talk about how they saw their own emotionally manipulative parent in Mother Gothel.

I mean... it had to be intentional, right? Like, SOMEone on the team HAD to have known what they were doing. SOMEone on that team totally poured their own experiences into Rapunzel and Mother Gothel's relationship, and then found catharsis by helping Rapunzel's story come to life... right?

(Anonymous) 2013-04-26 11:30 pm (UTC)(link)
Well, considering she was the VILLAIN, yes, I'd say it was completely intentional.

(Anonymous) 2013-04-27 12:11 am (UTC)(link)
Yes and no. Disney has a bad habit of not realizing what they're doing with their villains or how they'll come across--particularly the male villains like Scar or Whats-His-Name from Pocahontas. Just as I doubt that Disney intentionally went in with those characters and said, "Let's make these villains gay as all get-out," I also doubt that they intentionally went into Mother Gothel with the thought "Let's make her emotionally abusive and passive-aggressive in a way that most children won't really understand, but will trigger the hell out of a lot of adults."

(Anonymous) 2013-04-27 12:43 am (UTC)(link)
ayrt

All right, fair enough. I was thinking about it just in terms of "she's the bad guy so let's have her behave like an asshole", not considering the nature of her actions is probably a lot more obvious (and possibly upsetting) to adults than kids.

(Anonymous) 2013-04-27 02:13 am (UTC)(link)
Look, I don't mean to be cruel, but...Gothel was a villain. It kind of goes both ways with Disney, but most Disney villains aren't exactly the type most people...have a personal stake in. Ursula's an evil talking octopus. Maleficent is an evil fairy who got butthurt for not getting an invitation. Frodo is a hypocritical asshole clergyman who can do a lot more about what doesn't jive with his beliefs than just complain on public television.

But Gothel? What she does is a fundamentally recognizable situation for a loooot of people. God yes, that woman is triggery. I'd wager that YES, somebody at Disney knew what they were doing. For one, I'm just glad they actually had a villain who was a real piece of work.

If anything, Rapunzel got herself out of that situation. Gothel's triggery, but the moral I took from it is that if you take charge of yourself then you can get yourself out.

[personal profile] sachiko_san 2013-04-27 04:27 am (UTC)(link)
I hope to god you mean Claude Frollo and not Frodo Baggins.

And Ursula isn't an octopus. She's a mermaid with an octopus bottom.

(Anonymous) 2013-04-27 01:52 pm (UTC)(link)
Also known as a cecaelia. :)

(Anonymous) 2013-04-27 06:32 pm (UTC)(link)
OH MY GOD YES I MEANT FROLLO NOT FRODO. Lol. I can't believe I fucked that up.

...Okay fine. Mermaid with an octopus bottom.
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[personal profile] elialshadowpine 2013-04-29 04:20 am (UTC)(link)
Honestly, I cannot see how they could possibly have gotten the details they did without having had experience. There were just too many on-the-point quotes and attitudes. The thing that did it for me was Rapunzel's reaction to getting out of the tower. The back and forth between manic euphoria and debilitating anxiety, in rapid succession, was totally me when I left my abusive home. I could see some of the stuff from Gothel herself being Villain, but the way that Rapunzel reacted is absolutely dead on for an abuse survivor.