[ SECRET POST #2307 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #2307 ⌋

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Comments

Re: people who are not watching Hannibal:

[cbrachyrhynchos]

Because we did Lambs and Dragon over 20 years ago and don't need to watch an attempt to cram that excellence into one of the dumbest media formats?

Re: people who are not watching Hannibal:

[cbrachyrhynchos]

Yes, unless you're talking original work specifically designed and paced for the structural constraints of TV episodes with commercial breaks and seasons, although that also can lead to different kinds of stupidity (such as most romances on procedural crime dramas in which nothing happens but characters acting like idiots repeatedly between high-promotion weeks separated by months.) Not to mention the self-censorship to get through FCC hurdles.

So why would I watch an adaptation of a body of work that delivered relentless, novel-length, page-turning suspense shoehorned into a format that has to make time for the Geico Pig?

Re: people who are not watching Hannibal:

[cbrachyrhynchos]

I don't give a crap if you watch or not, just having a conversation ...

Of course you are, which is why you're framing it as "refusing to watch."

I actually think that turning the 'Red Dragon' concept into something approaching a serial psychodrama is not only way more interesting than cramming it into a mediocre movie (whether Petersen or Norton)...

I didn't write anything about feature film adaptations (of which I'm also highly skeptical), so why are you babbling about feature film adaptations?

... but probably the only way to do anything with that franchise that hasn't been done before.

Which is dumb reason to do something.

they also aren't censoring shit (if you ignore the moronic move to pull one episode, which they decided to do without any network input at all).

Do we get naked burning men superglued to wheelchairs on primetime?

I don't see how using the worst of episodic prime-time TV as a rationale for not watching adaptations,..

Which I did not do. I pointed to the worst to highlight the burdens inherent in how the medium is structured around breaking the suspense to sell you car insurance or tomorrow's sitcom. There are shows that can work with this, but they're primarily works that were developed for the form to start with, and not attempts to mangle larger literary works into fixed-length episodes with commercial breaks.

Not that a rationale is necessary. The burden is on the show to justify its concept, not on the audience to justify having better things to do with their time.

Re: people who are not watching Hannibal:

[cbrachyrhynchos]

at this point I'm responding to you because I think you're an idiot ...

Stay classy. I've not personally insulted you.

does this ruin film adaptations for you?

In many cases, yes it does. I'm not remotely shy about criticizing feature film adaptations.

to repeat:

How can you repeat something you've not expressed in the thread?

it's just taking the characters and adapting them for TV with original scripts and concepts.

Which I suspect, is even worse, because the Faustian danger that Hannibal poses gets undermined if he's turned into a weekly consultant.

as far as commercials "breaking the suspense", do you yell at novels when they go from chapter 12 to chapter 13?

No, for a couple of good reasons:

1) Turning the page takes less than a second.
2) The intervening page usually doesn't include incongruous advertisements printed in a much larger typeface, in neon, breaking the transition between chapters.

and somehow you're able to tolerate the incredible cliches, editing and structural downfalls of sci-fi genre TV under a major franchise, which is just funny.

Well no. I criticize the frequent failings of that franchise compared to its literary inspirations as well. I also don't take it seriously, and neither do the writers and actors most of the time. It is, however, largely an original work produced for television.

I also don't demand that non-Trekies justify themselves because I want a bigger fandom.

Re: people who are not watching Hannibal:

[meredith44]

I completely disagree that television is one of the dumbest media formats. I think that television shows can extend for a much longer time than movies allows for much more plot and character development. I think we're in a really good age of television right now, with several really good shows out there.