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fandomsecrets2013-04-30 06:46 pm
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[ SECRET POST #2310 ]
⌈ Secret Post #2310 ⌋
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And I like Catelyn, and dislike Jon Snow as a character (I don't hate him as a person or anything, I just think he's boring, like most "good" characters)
Geez, imagine if you were a half-sibling living in a household with your non-biological mother and she said something like that to you, Jesus Christ
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(Anonymous) 2013-05-01 03:45 am (UTC)(link)and "abusive to children"? lolno. in the show at least Jon is a fucking adult. Cat treated him pretty damn well all things considering, and it's canon that she only ever said that ONE awful thing to him. the worst she did was treat the others better (and he was a bastard so it's not like he expected to be in the same category as the legitimate children anyway)
too many people are trying to connect this to real life. it's not. in the context of this world, she did the best she coudl and she WAS NOT FUCKING ABUSIVE. Jon turned out FINE and for a bastard had a DAMN good spot in life.
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(Anonymous) 2013-05-01 10:36 pm (UTC)(link)Well, he's not in the book, he's like... what, 14? 15? I forget.
I like Catelyn Stark but I don't feel like I need to excuse her crappy behavior just because I like the character. That's stupid. She's still basically a good person and YEAH I KNOW OK she fucked up telling Jon Snow she wished he'd died instead and YEAH I KNOW OK that her situation having to live with her (supposed) proof of her husband's infidelity (her husband she didn't even love when they married even) is crappy -- BUT THAT ALSO DOESN'T EXCUSE WHAT SHE DID.
Nothing really excuses what she did
And I guess I connect it to real life because I remember the things my parents did and said out of anger that they "didn't mean" and even if I sympathize with them and understand WHY they snapped and did/said these things, it still hurts. I would put Cat's "I wish you were dead" almost on par with my mom's "you're emotionally retarded" and she only said that to me once. That has stayed with me my entire life and that's pretty typical of a lot of childhood memories people have, it only has to happen once to be traumatic
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(Anonymous) 2013-05-01 10:38 pm (UTC)(link)no subject
(Anonymous) 2013-05-02 05:17 am (UTC)(link)i was a very emotionally abusive 7 yr old cuz i said that to like EVERYONE i ever got in a spat with. "i hate you!!!" "i wish you were DEAD!!!!!" "why won't you just DIE, mum/dad/brother/best friend?!" "you were a horrible mistake and no one wanted you, dear sibling that i am older than!!" "i wish you were never BORN, sister/bro/bff!!!"
is it nice??
hell no.
is it out of line??
hell yes.
is it emotionally ABUSIVE?
lol no.
it's a one time overreaction. if cat was doing that on a normal basis, maybe i'd see your point. but she was not. as an adult, do i say the same sort of thing? no. but i've also never lost a child (or thought i was about to) nor have i had to deal with what cat had at that moment.
By your logic, Home Alone should be a study in emotional abuse. Kevin McAllister says he wishes his whole family would just disappear. AKA DIE. And his mother calls him on it, "I bet you'd be pretty sad if you woke up tomorrow and everyone was gone." "No, I wouldn't!!"
Followed up by the gleeful conclusion, "I made my family disappear!" *big grin*
Of course, we all know he was sad about it when he realised what that truly meant, but in the heat of the moment, Kevin McAllister was an emotionally abusive child towards his entire family.
Wow. That gives a whole new meaning to my favourite Christmas film.
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(Anonymous) 2013-05-01 05:04 am (UTC)(link)no subject
(Anonymous) 2013-05-01 10:37 pm (UTC)(link)You can even be an abusive person and not be a bad person in my opinion, I think most abusive people don't even realize they're being abusive